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| Al-Irelandi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5536 days ago 111 posts - 177 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 13 26 March 2010 at 2:16pm | IP Logged |
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How much mutual intelligibilty is there between the two languages? I read on the Internet 'somewhere' that Jamaican patois has elements of the Cork Irish English accent/pronunciation. Are there any native speakers of either of the two languages available on here who can confirm? Edited by Al-Irelandi on 26 March 2010 at 2:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 2 of 13 26 March 2010 at 2:47pm | IP Logged |
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I love Jamaican English, it's one of my favoutite dialects, and am always in awe of Jamaican Patois when I hear it too (I used to hear it a fair bit in Nottingham and Leeds) - it's just so pleasant on the ears, full of relaxed rhythm and natural beauty. All the same, I never realised that there was any cross-over with Hiberno-English (this is the language I was brought up on), and would be fascinated to learn more about any similarities.
I had a quick look by the way, and was able to dig up the following, suggesting the possibility of some mutual phrases and words or at least a similarity in the way Jamaicans and Irish say certain words in English: "The Irish accent is a major influence on the accent of Jamaican English today." [source: Jamaican English, Wikipedia] Here's a glossary of Jamaican Patois slang too, for anyone who's interested. Edited by Teango on 26 March 2010 at 2:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6910 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 13 26 March 2010 at 4:03pm | IP Logged |
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The only shared feature I've been aware of the last decade or so is that the /eɪ/ diphtong (away, place, James) typically is a /ɛ:/ in Jamaican, and some Irish accents.
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| Ayane Newbie United States isby-girlfriend.smac Joined 6086 days ago 32 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin | Message 4 of 13 27 March 2010 at 1:57am | IP Logged |
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I don't know what Irish English sounds like, so I wouldn't be able to compare them...I personally don't speak it, since I'd sound unbelievably lame...However, I'm familiar with Jamaican Patois (though we spell it Patwa) since my family (and friends) speaks it with one another. Edited by Ayane on 27 March 2010 at 1:57am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Al-Irelandi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5536 days ago 111 posts - 177 votes Speaks: English* | Message 5 of 13 28 March 2010 at 11:47am | IP Logged |
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I found the following examples common to both SW Irish English & Jamaican patois:
eedyat / eedjat = idiot cyaant = can't terty = thirty dat = that replacement of 'th' with 't' or 'd' There's probably more I just cant think off the top of my head... Edited by Al-Irelandi on 28 March 2010 at 11:48am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 6 of 13 28 March 2010 at 5:51pm | IP Logged |
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Very interesting, Al-Irelandi, another one I can think of would be "ting" (thing).
Incidentally, I found some cool videos of Jamaican Patois (or Patwa) on Youtube. Amongst the many clips are well-known children's stories, where you can align with the narrated Jamaican Patois at the same time as reading the standard written English in the fun illustrated storybooks. Here's a link to several children's stories in Patwa and other resources for anyone who's interested. Edited by Teango on 28 March 2010 at 5:54pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| timchuks87 Newbie Nicaragua learnjamaicanpatois. Joined 5099 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes | Message 7 of 13 10 December 2010 at 11:43am | IP Logged |
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I am a lover of jamaican patois it isn't a language per say, more like a slang. but very handy way of enjoying a conversation while making it yours.Exclusively yours, like asking everyone to make up a pig-latin system. Edited by timchuks87 on 10 December 2010 at 11:43am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6152 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 8 of 13 10 December 2010 at 12:44pm | IP Logged |
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I think they're very close. I've mistaken a Jamaican accent for an Irish one.
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