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| Frieza Triglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 5354 days ago 102 posts - 137 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, French Studies: German | Message 50 of 55 20 December 2010 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Would anyone be able to clarify any of this? Also, are 'das Bewerbungsgespräch' and 'das Vorstellungsgespräch' any different? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5321 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 51 of 55 20 December 2010 at 10:18pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
They're all pretty much interchangeable. IMHO, "Dessert" is most frequently used followed by "Nachtisch" and "Nachspeise". (I personally find "Nachspeise" a bit old-fashioned and don't use it at all.)
AFAIK, it doesn't matter whether the money is paid monthly, weekly or daily. The main difference is that "Gehalt" is a fixed salary while "Lohn" can vary depending on the actual number hours worked etc. Usually office workers get a "Gehalt" while blue collar workers get a "Lohn."
AFAIK, both are used interchangeably. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5321 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 52 of 55 20 December 2010 at 11:55pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I'm afraid there are no hard-and-fast rules. "verändern" is often used intransitively as a reflexive verb: sich beruflich verändern = to change careers while "ändern" is usually used as a transitive verb: er hat seine Meinung geändert = he has changed his mind 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| OlafP Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5436 days ago 261 posts - 667 votes Speaks: German*, French, English | Message 53 of 55 21 December 2010 at 12:10am | IP Logged | ||||||||
The second part is easy to answer: you mean 'verenden', compare to 'das Ende' (the end). Now the first part. This is a tricky question. I've been thinking about it for quite some time now, and I can't come up with a general rule. There definitely is a difference between 'ändern' and 'verändern' in some situations, but it is hard or even impossible to nail it down. Here are some examples: sein Aussehen verändern -- to change one's appearance sein Verhalten ändern -- to change one's behavior It is not strictly wrong to use the verbs the other way around, but it would sound a bit strange. The implicit meanings of the following phrases are quite clear: Sie hat sich verändert. -- She has changed. (Meaning: Her appearance has changed.) Sie hat sich geändert. -- She has changed. (Meaning: Her behavior has changed.) Why would you use 'ändern' with appearance but 'verändern' with behavior? I have no idea. You don't really have a choice with these two: die Welt verändern -- to change the world ein Gesetz ändern -- to change a law What's the difference here? Is it because the world is 'bigger' than a law? No idea. It sounds strange to say 'die Welt ändern'. On the other hand, 'ein Gesetz verändern' sounds like making only a minor adjustment instead of replacing the whole thing with something new, and yet it somehow seems to be wrong to say it like that at all. This one is quite clear: Meine Adresse hat sich geändert. -- My address has changed. But this one is not: Das Wetter ändert sich ständig. -- The weather keeps changing. Das Wetter verändert sich ständig. -- The weather keeps changing. I would prefer the first version, but the second sounds perfectly fine. It seems to boil down to idiomatic use. If one cannot find a rule then this might indicate that there is none. Anyway, I hope I could add something to your confusion. Edited by OlafP on 21 December 2010 at 12:13am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Frieza Triglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 5354 days ago 102 posts - 137 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, French Studies: German | Message 55 of 55 27 December 2010 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks Doitsujin.
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