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| yong321 Groupie United States yong321.freeshe Joined 5547 days ago 80 posts - 104 votes  Studies: Spanish | Message 1 of 4 12 December 2010 at 4:24am | IP Logged |
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On this page
http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/ovid/lboo/lboo61.htm the English translation To others she gives her love, to me only her disdain. A common broker enjoys with her the nights of love which she refuses me. seems (to me) to be translation of Diligit ipsa alios, a me fastidit amari; Institor, heu, noctes, quas mihi non dat, habet! Is that correct? Is "broker" a translation of "institor" here? Would "hawker", "peddler" a better word for it? Thanks. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 magister Pro Member United States Joined 6608 days ago 346 posts - 421 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Turkish, Irish Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 4 13 December 2010 at 4:15pm | IP Logged |
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Yes, you have the two passages lined up correctly. Below is a word-by-word literal translation, which may help you see how the Latin works. Let me know if you need any grammatical clarifications.
Diligit ipsa alios, a me fastidit amari; Loves she others, by me she-hates [that] she-is-loved; Institor, heu, noctes, quas mihi non dat, habet! Broker/peddler, oh, nights, which to-me not gives, has! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yong321 Groupie United States yong321.freeshe Joined 5547 days ago 80 posts - 104 votes Studies: Spanish | Message 3 of 4 13 December 2010 at 6:15pm | IP Logged |
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Thank you. The reason I ask is that my friend is doing research on history of brokerage. Since he doesn't know Latin, he thinks Ovid's "Ars Amatoria" (URL in my first message) mentioned a person whose work was comparable to that of a broker, probably purely based on the word "broker" in the English translation. Do you happen to know if an "institor" in Roman Empire at the turn of BC to AD would do the work of both a peddler and a broker? Nowadays these are two different types of work. Thanks again for your time.
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| magister Pro Member United States Joined 6608 days ago 346 posts - 421 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Turkish, Irish Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 4 13 December 2010 at 6:42pm | IP Logged |
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I don't happen to know. But a quick Google search using, for example, "first century institor" as keywords led to some links that your friend may find useful.
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