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| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5179 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes  Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 1 of 11 19 December 2010 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I have read somewhere that Muslims all have to learn Arabic to read Koran.
That would mean that you could speak Arabic and be understood when you go to Indonesia, Kazakhstan or Iran. But as I have some Indonesian pen pals, I have not seen in their profiles that they claim speaking Arabic. Is it they can just read simple sentences in it, or only priests (Imams?) re required to learn Arabic? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 5115 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 2 of 11 19 December 2010 at 8:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't believe that's right. They most definitely learn how to read Arabic, but certainly not speak it. They will
mainly understand the Qur'an through translations and bilingual books, but from my experiences studying Arabic with British Muslims, they can read and pronounce it, but definitely didn't understand it all, so I'm afraid you'll need Farsi, Russian or Indonesian to communicate! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| slhdn Diglot Newbie Turkey Joined 5732 days ago 20 posts - 33 votes Speaks: Turkish*, English Studies: French, Arabic (classical) | Message 3 of 11 19 December 2010 at 9:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In Turkey, only schools that teach Arabic are Imamhatips high schools. Even though they learn some Arabic, most of them don't get fluent in it, unless they are personally interested in Arabic.. Because there's not a need to do so. I would expect the situation in other non-Arab Muslim countries to be likewise. Edited by slhdn on 19 December 2010 at 9:05pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6551 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 4 of 11 20 December 2010 at 3:05am | IP Logged | |||||
This is most definitely not true in Tanzania. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6273 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 5 of 11 20 December 2010 at 12:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In many religions, knowledge of the sacred language is not widespread except among clergy or the very religious. As far as other people are concerned, it is quite possible that they can recite from the books or know prayers, and yet not have a full understanding of what it means, much less have a real knowledge of the language.
Nominally, Turkey (the Muslim society I know best, though officially secular) is nearly 100% Muslim. Yet I have met hardly any who can read the Koran. Even ethnic Arabs in Turkey who speak an Arabic colloquial dialect cannot read it. Granted, I do not know anyone who is very religious, but those who are Turkish citizens will virtually all have "Muslim" on the part of their identity cards which states religion. I would suppose the Koran is best understood from a linguistic point of view in the Arab countries. Elsewhere in the Muslim world, only the professional clergy or the very pious will really understand its language. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 5115 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 6 of 11 20 December 2010 at 4:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
My bad. Although Islam is not as prevalent in Tanzania as it is in Indonesia, Kazakhstan and Iran, if I am to stick to the examples mentionned, and the literacy rate isn't that high (or then again, lower than those examples). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 7 of 11 20 December 2010 at 5:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
On the other hand, in Morocco - a place where there is official separation of religion and state - you'll see plenty of people reading the Quran in Arabic daily. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 8 of 11 20 December 2010 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
Whether they understand it well is another story. We could all walk around reading Chaucer's Canterbury Tales -- which is about half as old --, that doesn't mean we understand it well. Edited by Arekkusu on 20 December 2010 at 6:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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