JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6123 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 9 of 15 20 December 2010 at 7:10pm | IP Logged |
This discussion has me wondering how many people are actually proficient in all three languages: Biblical Hebrew, Modern Hebrew, and Yiddish. I would imagine that is a small number (?)...
Edited by JW on 20 December 2010 at 7:11pm
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Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5600 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes
| Message 10 of 15 20 December 2010 at 7:42pm | IP Logged |
Because German is my mother tongue and I learned to read Russian und Hebrew, Yiddish books are not a real challenge for me. Without too much preperation the first book I read was א רײזע אַרום דיא װעלט אין 80 טעג written by זשול װערן and I did not encounter many problems. You have to become used to the pronunciation of the many Hebrew loan words, for example שבת is ['ʃabɛs], but the rules are consistent. Proficiency is a totally different matter, as I am a philologist, not a polyglot. I am not interested in conversation.
But I think among the older ones in Israel there are many people whose "mame loshn" is Yiddish but who are now proficient in Modern Hebrew and are stuying the Tanakh.
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JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6123 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 11 of 15 20 December 2010 at 8:33pm | IP Logged |
Cabaire wrote:
Because German is my mother tongue and I learned to read Russian und Hebrew, Yiddish books are not a real challenge for me. Without too much preperation the first book I read was א רײזע אַרום דיא װעלט אין 80 טעג written by זשול װערן and I did not encounter many problems. |
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I find that with proficiency in Biblical Hebrew and German I can usually figure out written Yiddish. For example, I can easily see that the book you read is: Eine Reise um die Welt in 80 Tagen.
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Ete Newbie Israel eteachergroupe.com Joined 5088 days ago 1 posts - 3 votes
| Message 12 of 15 21 December 2010 at 4:56pm | IP Logged |
Hi
First I want to give you some short explanation what is a difference between Modern Hebrew and Biblical Hebrew. Modern Hebrew is a language most of the Israelis use nowadays and Biblical Hebrew is the language of Bible. Not everyone who knows Hebrew can understand Biblical Hebrew just because people don’t use some of the words anymore.
I can suggest you to visit website eteacherhebrew.com, there you can find lots of different materials about Hebrew language. You can watch videos, subscribe monthly newsletter and do many other things. And if you decide to learn Hebrew, you can always learn it online with our teachers from Israel. All the lessons are “life”.
The same options are possible on our website for learning classical Hebrew. To find up more you can visit eteacherbiblical.com
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JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6123 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 13 of 15 21 December 2010 at 5:15pm | IP Logged |
Ete wrote:
I can suggest you to visit website eteacherhebrew.com, there you can find lots of different materials about Hebrew language. |
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I watched the free Biblical and Modern Hebrew videos from eteacherhebrew on youtube and they were indeed very well done.
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Lamonte Newbie United States Joined 5195 days ago 12 posts - 22 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, French, Modern Hebrew, Greek
| Message 14 of 15 22 December 2010 at 11:01pm | IP Logged |
bustthewave wrote:
I need better learning materials... I'm not looking to spend a lot of money but I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a book (or a rabbi haha) that would teach me construction, grammar, writing... exc. |
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Esther Raizen's Modern Hebrew for Beginners is very good. The book is not expensive, starts with the beginner in mind, and the multimedia is accessed through a website. The second book is called Modern Hebrew for Intermediate Students.
FSI Hebrew is available online for free. The audio is good although beginners may find it hard to keep up with the fast dialogue.
Hebrew in Three Months by Abramson is also decent. The book by itself is cheap, however the book + audio cassette is expensive.
For learning grammar, Lewis Glinert's Modern Hebrew: An Essential Grammar is very good.
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And I'm having a hard time figuring out which books are for modern hebrew versus biblical hebrew (and is there really even a difference?) |
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Books for Biblical Hebrew typically have "Biblical" or "Classical" in the title. Here are some: Invitation to Biblical Hebrew by Fuller; Beginning Biblical Hebrew by Futato; Grammar for Biblical Hebrew by Seow; A Practical Grammar for Classical Hebrew by Weingreen.
Also a Modern Hebrew book may include pointed vowels in the first few chapters, but the rest of the book usually does not. Biblical Hebrew books include pointed vowels throughout the whole book.
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litovec Tetraglot Groupie Switzerland lingvometer.com Joined 5132 days ago 42 posts - 60 votes Speaks: German, Russian, French, English
| Message 15 of 15 23 December 2010 at 12:05am | IP Logged |
Whatever book, learning method, ressource etc you choose, in my opinion, this book is a must - "501 Hebrew Verbs" by Shmuel Bolozky
There's both a root index and verb index (both English and Hebrew). Each verb root is conjugated in every possible binyan along with nouns and adverbs of the same root, common expressions using the verb are also given. For every verb there are few examples from text corpus. Besides, in the example from text corpus the author often uses the nouns of the same root with the verb in the same sentence.
You may use this book independently of your level: both beginners and advanced learners could gain from it.
Finally, it is very cheap: only 11$ on Amazon.
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