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Minus273’s "new year" log (#lal)
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minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5769 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English^C2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan	Message 9 of 11 20 September 2009 at 11:36am \| IP Logged
	J'ai lu un des threads ici par Iverson Sāb, dont un message a mit l'accent sur penser dans la langue cible. En effet, je n'ai pas vraiment pensé en français. Quand je suis tout seul, des idées existe dans mon esprit sous forme des mots chinois ou anglais. Je ne parle pas trop le français, et quand je suis forcé d'écrire, je traduis à partir de l'anglais avec wordreference - et surtout je ne traduis même pas trop. C'est très mal. Je dois simplement parler et écrire plus en français, et apprendre la façon d'exprimer les trucs personnels, les sentiments, les espérances, la désolation, la vie... Il ne faut pas éviter de lire et "réécrire" la fiction... I thought about the Iverson post on thinking silently in a language, and for this, I do almost always in Chinese and English. Hence I have never learnt the French way to express oneself, not as some coded way to talk English. (In labs, I get myself away with franglais, and limit myself in technical topics) It's indeed very important to read fiction... Edited by minus273 on 20 September 2009 at 11:41am 1 person has voted this message useful
minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5769 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English^C2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan	Message 10 of 11 21 September 2009 at 11:50am \| IP Logged
	Même si je n'ai pas fait grand-chose hier, j'ai lu un peu de Teach Yourself Ancient Greek et Vocabulaire progressif du français. Quand même, ça a commencé ! 1 person has voted this message useful
minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5769 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English^C2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan	Message 11 of 11 25 February 2010 at 1:47am \| IP Logged
	Procrastinated for three months and I'm back again! [And now I post my logs on both side of the strait.] I began to read Essentials of Modern Literary Tibetan yesterday. When I mentioned I was going to do that to my linguistics professor weeks ago. He said: "Why won't you just read mi ro rtse sgrung?" It's a bilingual storybook in Written Tibetan and French that I bought months ago. Well, I started grokking it today, somewhat over-enthusiastically. I prepared it in 3-line interlinear format: I copied the Tibetan text to an A4 paper (1st line), glossed each syllable, and, if possible, word in Chinese (2nd line), and copied the free translation in French, occasionally adjusting the phrase order, trying to roughly match with the Tibetan text (3rd line). Despite the recommendation of my prof, the book is no bloody beginnerish. The author once spelt a word based on the colloquial pronunciation. (chur "cheese", correctly phyur, homophonous in most of the dialects) I got stuck on some of the harder sentences, and sorta explained them, thanks to the wonderful explanations in Essentials. Anyway, I did a full A4 sheet, corresponding to 3/4 of a page in the original book. I made a list of all the words/morphemes I didn't know (except for one that I judge may be hapax in the book) and memorized them by Iversen's method. As now I have a better knowledge of the structure of Tibetan, I tried to write a post on lang-8, with the help of Goldstein's English-Tibetan dictionary and the bilingual bod rgya tshig mdzod chen mo (Great Tibetan-Chinese Dictionary). Hope that some speakers over there would be so kind to correct my horrendous newbie language. As it's only 01:34, I reckon it's good time to continue my language journey today, and do some Essentials and, hopefully, rGyalrong and Greek. Edited by minus273 on 25 February 2010 at 1:52am 1 person has voted this message useful

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