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| sabotai Senior Member United States Joined 5886 days ago 391 posts - 489 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, French | Message 49 of 55 22 February 2010 at 7:38am | IP Logged |
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Current Status
French Assimil: Lesson 45 Completed Jpod101: Beginner #32 TY Japanese: Completed Chapter 1 Genki: Working on chapter 1 Each Genki chapter consists of Dialogue (a short dialogue similar to what you'd find in TY or Assimil), Vocabulary lists (usually 2 pages long), Grammar (pretty extensive grammar explanations), Practice (lot of exercises, and they seem to be worth it. Chapter 1 mostly dealt with numbers) and some Extra practice. They have most of the chapter on the audio as well, including the Vocab lists. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| sabotai Senior Member United States Joined 5886 days ago 391 posts - 489 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, French | Message 50 of 55 28 February 2010 at 3:20am | IP Logged |
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French Assmil: Lesson 51 Completed. 2 months in and I'm close to the half way point with French Assimil. Still on pace to finish by the end of April (since Feb. is a short month). Jpod101: Beginner #34 - I've been slacking off with these. Need to get back into it. Genki: Have done the exercises in Chapter 1 a few times. Am starting chapter 2 tonight. Teach Yourself Japanese - I've already decided to put this away. I didn't think the romanji-only nature of it would bother me so much, but it does. I might still use it for the structures in it. Go through them and practice them. I think what I'll do is go back to studying the Kanji as my 3rd activity for the day. Probably not go back to RtK. Just take a few Kanji a day from my kanji books and use them in sentences to practice various structures and patterns again. Perhaps even post the sentences here and maybe lang-8 to make sure I'm using them correctly. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| sabotai Senior Member United States Joined 5886 days ago 391 posts - 489 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, French | Message 51 of 55 05 March 2010 at 6:53am | IP Logged |
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French Assimil: Lesson 55 Jpod101: Beginner #40 Genki: Worked through Chapter 2 Practices once. Will do one or two more times. Not much to report. Slow and steady. Edited by sabotai on 05 March 2010 at 6:54am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5385 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 52 of 55 05 March 2010 at 1:12pm | IP Logged |
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3 months into it, how would you compare your French and your Japanese?
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| sabotai Senior Member United States Joined 5886 days ago 391 posts - 489 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, French | Message 53 of 55 09 March 2010 at 7:24am | IP Logged |
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I'd say my Japanese is a little better overall than my French. Reading is a bit easier in French, though, due to familiarity with the writing. My Japanese reading in the Kana and Kanji is still very slow, but it's slowly getting better.
I have a book called "Easy French Reader". It's a graded reader with 3 very beginner sections, but one a bit tougher than the other. I read several pages of the first section with no problem, flipped to the 3rd section and couldn't understand it. So I'm somewhere in between the 1st section of Easy French Reader and the 3rd. Both are much, much further along (although still very much Beginner) than I was with German after 3 months of using Rosetta Stone. Current Status French Assimil: Lesson 59 Jpod101: Beginner #40 Genki: Worked through some of the practices a second time I wanted to get a lot done this past weekend, but I was really busy and barely got anything accomplished. Been a bad couple of days but hopefully I get back into rhythm tomorrow. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| sabotai Senior Member United States Joined 5886 days ago 391 posts - 489 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, French | Message 54 of 55 12 March 2010 at 6:53am | IP Logged |
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I spent some time today and yesterday watching videos on YouTube of a method called "Gold List" from usenetposts. It's essentially using vocab lists, but only looking at them once every 2 weeks or so. The idea is to use your long term memory when determining if you remembered a word or not instead of your short term memory. After the two weeks, you then rewrite most of the words again (the ones you had a hard time remembering or didn't remember at all). You do this several times until you "distill" the list down.
That's an overly simplified explanation. To see a full explanation of it, go to Youtube and search for "Gold List Method". Or better yet, I'll just link several of the videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6FERpM5fQ (Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTyJiGVJ0LM (Part 2 - the file he links to no longer exists, but you don't need it) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuLH7cGrHPs (Hour long presentation he gave to a small class) So I decided to try this out with French and Japanese. I have a book called "1001 Most Useful French Words" that I will use for the first thousand (+1) words with this and I'll see how it goes. I'm going to use this for Kanji as well, but I'm only going to be doing 10 Kanji a day since I have to write not just the kanji and meanings, but also the two (or more) readings for them. I'm also going to use this for Kanji compounds. The two books I'll be taking the kanji and compounds from are "Essential Kanji" and "Kanji and Kana (Tuttle Language Library)". I'll be 20 compounds a day using kanji I have used for the kanji list. (starting on the second day so that I have 20 kanji to use). So, we'll see how that goes. And also, I've let my German slide again. Time to get back to Teach Yourself Improve Your German this weekend. Current Status French Assimil: Lesson 62 Gold List: 25 words Jpod101: Beginner #43. Genki: Have done all of the practices in Chapter 2 twice. I'm trying to progress at a rate of 1 chapter per week. Kanji Gold List: 10 Kanji Edited by sabotai on 12 March 2010 at 6:54am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| sabotai Senior Member United States Joined 5886 days ago 391 posts - 489 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, French | Message 55 of 55 13 March 2010 at 7:44am | IP Logged |
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Did the first headlist (Gold List Method) for 10 Kanji and 20 Knaji compounds, and the compounds simply took too long to do. I thought about cutting it down to ten, but I think what I'll do is just stick with 10 kanji a day. Maybe it up that to 15 or 20 a day at some point and just wait until I'm done the kanji before moving on to the compounds. In fact, I will try it with 20 kanji a day for now and see how that works.
Current Status French: Assimil Lesson 64 Gold List: 50 words Jpod101: Beginner #43 Genki: Started on Chapter 3 Kanji Gold List: 20 Kanji 1 person has voted this message useful |
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