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| nox Diglot Groupie Croatia Joined 6862 days ago 62 posts - 62 votes  Speaks: Croatian*, English Studies: German | Message 9 of 19 26 March 2006 at 4:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Is Armenian a dead language? Is is, I think.. but I've heard there are 3 villages whose mother tongue is Armenian.
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| lady_skywalker Triglot Senior Member Netherlands aspiringpolyglotblog Joined 6891 days ago 909 posts - 942 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, French, Dutch, Italian | Message 10 of 19 26 March 2006 at 8:35pm | IP Logged | ||
I think you must be confusing it with Aramaic (which is only spoken in a few villages and is a descendent of the language Jesus supposedly spoke). Armenian is the national language of the country Armenia and variants of the language are spoken by the widespread Armenian disapora. I believe the language is spoken in countries such as Lebanon and Iran, although the Armenians living there normally speak Western Armenian as opposed to Eastern Armenian, which is spoken in Armenian itself. You can find out a bit more about it here if you wish. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kidnickels Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 7251 days ago 124 posts - 119 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishB1, French Studies: Mandarin | Message 11 of 19 27 March 2006 at 10:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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My wife and I used the Pimsleur Western Armenian course (10 lessons) and found it very useful for pleasantries and for learning the accent. Armenian's a very cool-sounding language, but the alphabet has stopped me from putting any time into it. I find it hard to distinguish many of those letters. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 12 of 19 29 March 2006 at 1:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Armenian is spoken in Turkey, too. But I don't know if western or eastern.
Regards, Ilhan PS: Aramaic is spoken in the south-east of Turkey. There're a lot of Aramaic schools down there. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7145 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 13 of 19 29 March 2006 at 2:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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The dialect of Armenian spoken in Turkey is the western dialect; the eastern dialect is spoken in Armenia itself and in Iran, as well as by diaspora Armenians in Russia and the other countries that have come out of the former Soviet Union.
As for "a lot of Aramaic schools down there" in southeastern Turkey, this must be a very new development, if true, since Turkey always prohibited the teaching of local languages other than Turkish. (The only exceptions were for Armenians, Greeks, and Jews, on account of the Lausanne Treaty, in which the Aramaic/Assyrian Christians were not mentioned.) After resisting for a long time, Turkey finally, due to pressure from the EU, allowed private language classes in such languages a year or so ago, but with a great many restrictions. These schools were primarily for Kurdish. As for Aramaic, priests in the Aramaic/Assyrian churches used to teach the language to young people in the churches, but always had to do so in a fairly clandestine manner, since it was technically against the law. If you have any references to cite for the Aramaic schools in Turkey, I'd be very interested to see them. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 14 of 19 30 March 2006 at 8:17am | IP Logged | ||
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There are a lot of Aramaic elementary schools there, but they're not allowed to have High Schools because they're not recognized as minorities in the Treaty of Lausanne.
I know there are Aramaic schools because I saw it on a video. You can get this video at www.suryaniler.com . I couldn't find any information at the net but I've sent an eMail to info@suryaniler.com . Rergards, Ilhan PS: Kurdish was the only forbidden language because it was used as a tool for terrorism. Right now it has been allowed agein. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 15 of 19 30 March 2006 at 8:59am | IP Logged | ||
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Sorry folks, I have to correct myself. There are no Aramaic schools in Turkey. I thought I had seen them but I hadn't. Excuse me please.
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| easyboy82 Pentaglot Groupie Italy Joined 6831 days ago 72 posts - 75 votes Speaks: Italian*, French, English, Latin, Ancient Greek Studies: Greek | Message 16 of 19 30 March 2006 at 9:18am | IP Logged | ||
Just a note: Sicilian isn't yet officially considered as a language but as a dialect ,above all in Italy,even if it is not fully intelligible with Standard Italian.Then,not everyone in Sicily speak such a "heavy" form of dialect,the largest part speak Italian with a Sicilian accent and some dialectal words...I think the liaison between Italian and Sicilian is the same there is between English and Scots : very difficult to decide if they are two languages or two very different variants of the same (I'd personally choose the latter option). 1 person has voted this message useful |
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