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MatthewRM
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 Message 1 of 12
18 February 2010 at 2:03am | IP Logged 
17 Feb 2010

This is going to be where I post my progress, and my problems.

I think if I know i'm tracking myself, I will find it much harder to skip a day.

I started learning German on the 14th of Feb. I am using Rosetta Stone Levels 1-3 and Pimsleur levels 1-3.

So far I finished level 1 Unit 1 on Rosetta Stone, and German 1 Lesson 1-3 with Pimsleur.

On a side note, as I went through the Pimsleur course I found I spent lots of time waiting, as the audio course waits for people to respond or copy the speaker. I decided to try to translate the vocabulary they were teaching me into a text document to study and drill myself on later.

I am uploaded it here and as i continue I will upload all my translations, not to "help" anyone else. No i'm not in that position yet. I was hoping that you all would look over my work and correct where I went wrong. Some of the inflections and such are very hard to pick up.

If you find anything crazy you want to correct me on or just give some tips you can email me at milne@tds.net or talk to me on Skype where my name is navymilne.
I will make changes to the translations I made as any corrections come in.

Thanks for everything, wish me luck.

This is the link to my translated notes

P.S. As i can't post links yet, due to the fact that I am new to the forums, just copy and paste this URL

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5ecf14116fe3394b0f83d91f6 dff7c383822cd70cc38b3fd4ca8d2a77d7aad89

Edited by MatthewRM on 18 February 2010 at 6:54pm

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MatthewRM
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 Message 2 of 12
18 February 2010 at 6:53pm | IP Logged 
18 Feb 2010

I finished the first two lessons in Assimil German without Toil. It was very basic, and most of what it covered was also covered in Rosetta Stone. I do like having the book though, it talks alot about what sounds in English translate into the German sounds your trying to make. Rosetta Stone just says the words and you have to copy. I had trouble with Ich using Rosetta Stone but Assimil showed me how to use sounds I knew to make that new "ch" sound.

All in all I think its great. I have only done two lessons so far but I'll do some Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone tonight. I think with all three teaching tools I'll be covered with whatever one of them lacks.

I'll post The Pimsleur notes I translated from lesson 4 tonight when I'm done with them, please give them a look and correct anything you find.

They will be at this same URL...

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5ecf14116fe3394b0f83d91f6 dff7c383822cd70cc38b3fd4ca8d2a77d7aad89



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MatthewRM
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 Message 3 of 12
18 February 2010 at 11:46pm | IP Logged 
18 Feb 2010

Rosetta Stone is pissing me off today. I just got to the point where it is trying to teach me ihr, ihre, ihren and sein, seinen. It is just not explaining it. Why are the words are changing? That is it associated with them being multiple people or multiple objects, or male or female or what... Its just random pictures with zero information.

I guess this is what everyone is talking about with Rosetta Stone and grammar.

Lets hope Assimil and Pimsleur fills in the gaps.

Edited by MatthewRM on 19 February 2010 at 4:57pm

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 Message 4 of 12
19 February 2010 at 12:49am | IP Logged 
Where did you manage to find "German without Toil"? I am currently trying to bootstrap a _very_ elementary level of German and am working through "German with Ease". I started studying German on 14/02/2010 as well :-).

As for the ihr/ihre/ihren and sein/seine/seinen...that sounds like a frustrating experience with Rosetta Stone. I've never gone through much of a Rosetta Stone program myself, but you do see complaints similar to yours quite a bit. In any case, my "German with Ease" book definitely explains what is going with the articles/adjectives declining and I be Pimsleur does as well. They might introduce it a little bit later than Rosetta Stone though. My Assimil starts explaining this particular grammatical complication in lesson 15.
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 Message 5 of 12
19 February 2010 at 4:17am | IP Logged 
A friend of mine gave me his copy of German without toil so I didn't have to go buy the new one.

I just finished lesson 5 tonight. I kind of skipped the pimsleur lesson tonight cause I got so caught up in the Assimil lessons. I like them so much.

I ran out to the store and got two 5 subject notebooks and started writing each German sentence and its English translation to help assimilate me into German spelling and just to increase my familiarization with everything.

Plus I'll use that to read over later to study from.
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 Message 6 of 12
20 February 2010 at 3:53pm | IP Logged 
20 Feb 2010

I finished up lesson 9 of the Assimil program last night. Then I ended up getting upset that I would come across a sentence that I was supposed to be able to understand but it turned out that somehow I had forgotten a word along the way. So I took two hours and made about 100 flash cards with every German word from lesson 1-7.

So I figure when i can flip through them on the English side and "see" the German word I'll continue.
Has anyone else found that the "flashcard" method helps them study or maintain a vocabulary?
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 Message 7 of 12
20 February 2010 at 5:11pm | IP Logged 
Yes, I had to do much the same for my Assimil Swahili with Ease. However, I am using
Anki, a free software for my computer that quizzes me on the words. That way, I can take
advantage of the science of spaced repetition, i. e. quizzing myself with increasing
intervals depending on whether I knew the word last time or not.
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 Message 8 of 12
21 February 2010 at 11:11pm | IP Logged 
21 Feb 2010

Thanks for the tip on the flash card program. I just downloaded it as well. It seem like its going to work just fine. Anything has to be better than me writing out 400 cards lol.

Anyway I have finished up to lesson 16 in Assimil now. I am still very happy with the program though there are some times when i feel like I am not getting everything its teaching. I seem to be forgetting a few owrds and the words that are very similar I seem to get confused alot of the time.

I'm going to keep working on it and pushing through. I think i'm going to load my Ipod with the Pimsleur lessons i have so i can use it in the car and on lunch. Maybe a few German songs. Anyone know any good ones?



Edited by MatthewRM on 21 February 2010 at 11:11pm



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