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Raчraч Ŋuɲa
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Speaks: Bikol languages*, Tagalog, EnglishC1
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| Message 17 of 17 30 November 2010 at 5:54am | IP Logged |
Cainntear wrote:
Summary:
Castillian Spanish uses LL for a palatised L (traditionally /lj/, most commonly now
simply /j/) and somebody borrowed that into Catalan.
But Catalan also has a "geminated" L, that is one with a longer, sustained sound, which
is basically like two Ls run together. Italian would just write LL for this, but
Catalan couldn't because they were using it for something else.
The · in L·L is simply a separator, telling you that it's not a single "letter"
(digraph, strictly) LL, but two letter Ls.
There would be better ways of doing it*, but no language is ever written cleanly and
logically -- every change is a hack of a "best fit" with what's already there.
(* The most logical thing in my opinion would be for LL to be written instead LY, which
would be consistent with NY, a palatised N equivalent to Spanish Ñ. This would leave
L·L free to lose the ·. But it's a bit late for that now.) |
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Since Spanish use Ñ/ñ to represent ny, Catalan could use Ɫ/ɫ to represent ly. Then they
can replace l·l with ll, similar to Spanish rr.
Edited by Raчraч Ŋuɲa on 30 November 2010 at 5:59am
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