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mka
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26 November 2010 at 11:08pm | IP Logged 
I'm taking classes at the Alliance Française in my town in Mexico, and using 1940 French Without Toil and the FSI course in addition. The 1940 FWT uses a lot of the simple past tense, whereas the Alliance Française stresses the passé composé, saying that the simple past tense is no longer common in France. Any native French speakers confirm current usage in France now?
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leosmith
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26 November 2010 at 11:25pm | IP Logged 
I'm not French, but:
passé composé - everyday speech
passé simple - literature

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Arekkusu
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29 November 2010 at 4:48pm | IP Logged 
Except in very formal situations, I'd say no one uses passé simple anymore, and I'd even venture that the average native speaker would not be confortable at all using it either. I would encourage you to expose yourself to it for comprehension, but that's it.
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Frieza
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29 November 2010 at 11:06pm | IP Logged 
I had six years of French in school and we never learnt the 'passé simple'.
I've never heard it either (and there was a time when I did watch quite a bit of French TV) although I have seen it in writing.
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Spiderkat
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30 November 2010 at 12:25am | IP Logged 
Even for those, like me for instance, who learnt the "passé simple" in school and used it decades ago, the "passé composé" has become more natural to be used nowadays in the everyday life.
It doesn't mean that the "passé simple" has to be forgotten. It's a beautiful tense, at least to me, and brings this little something in the reading that the "passé composé" doesn't.
But as Arekkusu wrote, and I agree with him, you should learn it in a passive way because you'll later encounter it in books.



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