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| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5576 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 17 of 71 25 August 2009 at 11:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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I you think about it, many English speakers would have a potentially easier time learning Turkic languages, as the level of difficulty is a category lower.
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 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5848 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 18 of 71 26 August 2009 at 12:00am | IP Logged | ||
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Because of the Latin script Turkish is much easier accessible.
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| Fazla Hexaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6263 days ago 166 posts - 255 votes Speaks: Italian, Serbo-Croatian*, English, Russian, Portuguese, French Studies: Arabic (classical), German, Turkish, Mandarin | Message 19 of 71 26 August 2009 at 1:43am | IP Logged | ||
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It might be only me, but alphabet learning has never put my down, ever, actually if anything it increased the chic factor of the language.
And if someone is scared simply by a new alphabet, (I'm not counting chinese characters here which have a completely different logic and structure) I doubt he'll ever get far in any language learning. 7 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5576 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 20 of 71 26 August 2009 at 1:50am | IP Logged | ||
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Turkic languages are "level 2" Arabic is considered "level 3" along with Chinese/Japanese/Korean.
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| Mert87 Triglot Newbie Joined 5943 days ago 19 posts - 25 votes Speaks: Turkish*, English, German Studies: Latin, Ancient Greek | Message 21 of 71 27 August 2009 at 10:08am | IP Logged | ||
Yeah,but that depends on the region.i can understand what azarbaijanis say i can even talk to them without having so much trouble but they have a different use of words.it can be quite confusing as well. For example they don't say "uçak indi."which means play has landed. they say "uçak düştü." in our Turkish this means "plane has crashed" :D Other than that they have many russian,arabic,persian words.But i guess spending 2-3 months in azerbaijan would be enough for a Turk to learn the language They can watch Turkish soap operas without subtitles i think it's a little bit easier for them to understand us. They speak Turkish but it's a different dialect.I heard that they recently declared azarbaijani as an independent language :) that is to be expected they have been a free country for only 19 years.Nationalism might help As for the other Turkic languages I think that they have less connection with us but they are still easy to comprehend with a little effort. in the past arabic was the unifying language of the eastern world.Many people used it. Many Turks wrote in arabic cause it would be much easier for them to be read by their peers.(it was mostly religious stuff) it was like latin of the muslim world so it doesn't solely belong to arabs. People still pray in arabic(even if they don't know what they are saying) Ask me if you have any questions about Turkish 6 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6273 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 22 of 71 27 August 2009 at 10:27am | IP Logged | ||
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I have watched Azerbaijani TV on satellite and, through Turkish, largely understood what was being said. There were also some broadcasts in Russian. As Vincent in Pulp Fiction says, there are the "little differences", but I would guess people from Turkey would find Azerbaijani at least 80% intelligible.
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| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 23 of 71 27 August 2009 at 7:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think the "sheer numbers" argument doesn't count here, because, as has been mentioned before, if you consider all the dialects to be ONE language, than you will have to admit at all the Turkic languages are one language, too.
The further east you get, the harder it gets. Azeri is very easy, sounds like a "cute" or "childish" version of Turkish, Türkmen is a little harder, Kazakh, Kirghiz, Uygur and Özbek are very hard, and the easternmost languages, like Yakut, are almost impossible to understand (at least for me). Regards, Ilhan 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6273 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 24 of 71 27 August 2009 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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Turkish, Azerbaijani and Turkmen are relatively close to one another. The others are more distant. Chuvash (possibly the only survivor of a much larger branch of the Turkic family) and Yakut are very different from the other members of the Turkic language family.
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