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bouda Senior Member United States Joined 5601 days ago 194 posts - 197 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 81 of 115 05 September 2009 at 1:03am | IP Logged |
That Latin site looks really interesting. I probably won't have time to start it right
now, but I'm definitely bookmarking it for later! Thanks.
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| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German
| Message 82 of 115 05 September 2009 at 7:01am | IP Logged |
It is a pretty clear, straightforward guide, and as someone who has never dealt with declensions before, I appreciated having everything explained and introduced gradually.
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LATIN:
Waded a little into Lesson 3 of the National Archives UK site, then went back and reviwed lessons 1 and 2. It might take a while to get the hang of the 1st and 2nd declensions (I'm only comfortable with the 1st declension so far, though dative and ablative are particularly tricky for me to remember. I'm improving with them and am doing fine with nominative, vocative, accusative, and genitive).
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 83 of 115 05 September 2009 at 10:34am | IP Logged |
Here are some slides I created to help my students memorize the declensions and practise them: http://drop.io/latin_grammar_declensions_main
Maybe they'll help.
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| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German
| Message 84 of 115 05 September 2009 at 5:55pm | IP Logged |
Thanks so much!
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| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German
| Message 85 of 115 05 September 2009 at 7:04pm | IP Logged |
SWAHILI:
Been working on composing some coherent paragraphs on random made-up topics. Like this:
Nitakwenda Kenya mwaka ujao. Nitakapofika pale nitakwenda hotelini. Baada ya chakula cha jioni nitalala. Nitakaa pale muda wa miezi minane. Nitawaona wanyama wa Kenya: simba, tembo, punda milia, na duma. Halafu nitakwenda Tanzania kwa sababu nataka kumtembelea rafiki yangu anayekaa Dar es Salaam. Tutakwenda Zanzibar kwa boti na tutaona mashindano ya ngalawa. Hatimaye nitarudi Marekani.
Pana mwanafunzi katika darasa la historia ninayependa sana. Jina lake John na yeye ni mcheshi, fahamivu, na mzuri. Anasoma historia na hesabu. Ninampenda lakini sijui kama ananipenda. Nitamwona tena wiki ijayo, Ijumaa.
Jina langu Rhoda. Ninasema Kiswahili kidogo tu. Nimejifunza Kiswahili kwa miezi miwili. Naijifunza lugha hii maana nitakwenda Afrika ya Mashariki mwaka ujao. Naipenda sana! Naweza kusoma, kuandika, kusema, na kufahamu lakini mimi si mahiri sana. Baadaye kidogo, nitaweza kwenda Africa ya Mashariki na kuongea na watu wote.
LATIN:
Did a lot of Latin work today, working on 1st and 2nd declension nouns.
Also went through the second half of Lesson 3.
Sum, es, est, sumus, estis, sunt. I remember learning this on Arthur years ago...
Domina sum.
Dominus es.
Agricola est.
Regine sumus.
Isabella et Maria estis.
Pueri sunt.
Also glanced at Lesson 4 and learned how to negate sentences and got an idea of 2nd conjugation verbs.
Edited by Rhoda on 07 September 2009 at 7:34pm
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| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German
| Message 86 of 115 07 September 2009 at 4:07am | IP Logged |
..............chemistry is slowly murdering me. Hence the low level of language activity today. I did some Latin, working through Lesson 4 (all the way!).
Here is a practice Swahili dialogue:
A: Hujambo bwana?
B: Sijambo bibi. Habari za leo?
A: Nzuri sana, na wewe?
B: Salama tu. Je, unakwenda wapi?
A: Nakwenda mkahawani. Nina kiu sana!
B: Niende nawe?
A: Haya, twende! Baada ya kwenda mkahawani, nitakwenda sokoni. Uende nami?
B: Siwezi. Lazima nirudi nyumbani kabla ya chakula cha mchana.
A: Sawa. Tupo mkahawani sasa. Unataka nini?
B: Mimi napenda chai ya rangi. Na wewe?
A: Sijui...labda nitaagiza maji ya machungwa. Una njaa?
B: Ndiyo. Nataka vibibi vitatu.
A: Mimi pia. Ndugu! Tuletee chai moja ya rangi, maji moja ya machungwa, na vibibi sita.
B: Utanunua nini sokoni?
A: Nitanunua matunda. Nahitaji machungwa, mananasi, nazi, maembe, malimau, na ndizi.
B: Ala! Matunda mengi sana!
A: Ndiyo. Binamu zangu watanitembelea kesho. Wanapenda matunda. Utafanya nini kesho?
B: Nitajifunza Kifaransa. Halafu, nitamwona rafiki yangu anayekaa Tunduru. Yeye ni wakili.
A: Kweli?
B: Naam. Tutakwenda katika jumba la makumbusho. Haya basi, afadhali niondoke sasa. Kwa heri ya kuonana!
A: Kwa heri!
Edited by Rhoda on 07 September 2009 at 7:19am
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| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German
| Message 87 of 115 07 September 2009 at 6:16pm | IP Logged |
FRENCH: Finished up through Chap 3 of Harry Potter.
LATIN: Found a couple good Medieval Latin resources:
1) http://www.mythfolklore.net/medieval_latin/index.html. There are readings and everything, which I don't think I'm ready for yet, but it's good motivation.
2) http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/medieval.html. This I am definitely not ready for...but again, excellent inspiration. Maybe in a few months, I'll be hacking through these!
Time to return to the passage I found earlier in Apprendre le Latin Médiéval.
1. In terra summus rex est hoc tempore Nummus.
L'Argent est aujourd'hui roi absolu aur cette terre.
It looks like Nummus means money and is a 2nd declension noun (here shown in singular nominative).
2. Nummum mirantur reges.
Les rois admirent L'Argent.
This one's easy :). Nummum is singular accusative.
3. Sed quia consumi poterit cito gloria Nummi...
Mais parce que la gloire de l'Argent pourra se dissiper très vite...
Nummi is singular genitive.
Then I read on in Apprendre le Latin Médiéval, a passage about adjectives. It seemed pretty logical, I just need to commit to heart the different declensions (I have a feeling Sprachprofi's slides are going to come in handy). I also ventured into Lesson 5 of the Latin Tutorial--also on adjectives.
SWAHILI: Here is another brief practice dialogue:
A: Shikamoo mwalimu.
B: Marahaba.
A: Hujambo?
B: Sijambo. Na wewe, habari gani?
A: Salama.
B: Habari za masomo?
A: Njema tu.
B: Unajifunza nini sasa?
A: Najifunza sayansi, Kirusi, na historia.
B: Unayapenda masomo yako?
A: Nayapenda sana, hasa masomo yangu ya historia. Lakini masomo yangu ni magumu sana.
B: Wewe ni fahamivu. Usiwe na wasiwasi. Bila shaka utashinda.
A: Asante sana. Kwa heri mwalimu.
B: Kwa heri.
And here's another (the problem is I keep running out of ideas!!):
A: Hujambo bwana?
B: Sijambo bwana. Habari za safari?
A: Safi sana. Habari za hapa?
B: Njema.
A: Jina langu Ed Martin. Nilipiga simu jana kuwekesha chumba.
B: Haya basi. Chumba chako...ni chumba cha mtu mmoja?
A: Ndiyo.
B: Chumba chako ni kwenye ghorofa ya tatu. Pana choo na bafu. Ni chumba kikubwa sana. Kitafaa?
A: Kitafaa.
B: Haya bwana. Namba sita kwenye ghorofa ya tatu. Uchukue ufunguo wako.
A: Asante.
Edited by Rhoda on 08 September 2009 at 5:55am
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| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German
| Message 88 of 115 08 September 2009 at 10:49pm | IP Logged |
Chemistrychemistrychemistry. LAHDLFHDLFHDSLFHDSLFHDS. Sorry for writing so much about Chem in a language log. It really is cutting into my available language time though!
I did some Latin today, focusing on 1st declension nouns in the ablative. I think one way to make declensions stick will be to spend all day focusing and going over one particular case (e.g. ablative) until it's just second nature. Did most of this walking around between classes. I'm sure I looked like a nutcase muttering to myself, "Carta, terra, domina. Cartis, terris, dominis. Regina Isabella terras carta confirmat. Domina laboro. Dominis laboramus. Terra laboro. Terris laborant. Carta, terra, domina. Cartis, terris, dominis."
A professor recommended the following book to me: A Primer of Medieval Latin by Charles H. Beeson. Now I really can't wait to improve my Latin!
As for Swahili, I also worked through about 40 more pages of Kiswahili Mufti 1: Darasa la Kwanza.
Edited by Rhoda on 09 September 2009 at 5:36am
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