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| Patchy Newbie Joined 5129 days ago 25 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* | Message 33 of 41 17 November 2010 at 12:44am | IP Logged | |||||
Hello, Cainntear. 'Good point! Best wishes, Patchy. Edited by Patchy on 17 November 2010 at 1:07am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| irishpolyglot Nonaglot Senior Member Ireland fluentin3months Joined 5634 days ago 285 posts - 892 votes  Speaks: Irish, English*, French, Esperanto, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Sign Language Studies: Mandarin | Message 34 of 41 17 November 2010 at 12:49am | IP Logged | |||||
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Patchy, you're threading on thin ice. Please stop spamming this thread with attacks against me. I know it sucks to be so wrong, but chill.
[Edit: He removed that one, but he went over the top with insults before editing them out. I can't respect someone who uses such undeserved aggression to try to get his point across. He turned this thread into a circus. I am done trying to talk to this brick wall. He clearly has no interest in what the real modern situation is]. [Edit 2: Now he's spamming the thread with constant single answers instead of putting them all together! Most are just lack of understanding my point so I don't want to encourage him. This subject of false labels has been discussed enough, and no progress can be made at this stage by any party] Edited by irishpolyglot on 17 November 2010 at 1:51am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Patchy Newbie Joined 5129 days ago 25 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* | Message 35 of 41 17 November 2010 at 12:56am | IP Logged | |||||
Irishpolyglot, you probably realised that this was not a realistic comparison, but I think that maybe threw it in anyway and hoped for the best. You cannot in this context fairly compare Minority languages to established legal and de facto national languages such as French and Italian. There are; however; many other Romance languages which indeed are in a similar situation. One (or a few, depending on how you classify it) which springs to mind is Occitan, if you speak to any of its speakers, depending whether they consider themselves Gascon, Aranese, Bearnese or just plain old Occitan-speakers. You'll often find similar differences of opinion to the ones we expound in this thread. Does anybody agree with me on this, or am I out of line? Patchy. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Patchy Newbie Joined 5129 days ago 25 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* | Message 36 of 41 17 November 2010 at 1:03am | IP Logged | |||||
Hi Irishpolyglot. I don't and won't spam. I'm simply replying to comments on the forum. I was trying to be light-hearted, but as you find the previous comment offensive I will now remove it, with apologies. Please remember we're basically on the same side here, in that we take an interest in languages and enjoy discussing them. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Patchy Newbie Joined 5129 days ago 25 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* | Message 37 of 41 17 November 2010 at 1:28am | IP Logged | |||||
As I say, I refer to these two languages as Scottish Gaelic and Irish Gaelic if and when the context does not show which of them I mean. I do this partly because that is what they are called by most people on a world-wide scale. I don't see why any one small group of people should be be obeyed on a decision they take to change how a language or anything else is called in the English language. The same situation exists here in Spain, where the Basque language may now no longer be called 'Basque' in English, 'Basque' or 'Basquais' in French, 'Vascuence' or 'Vasco' in Spanish, or 'Basc' in Catalan. Many people now obey this decision made by certain political groups and their committees; most of whom do not speak the language; to now only call the language 'Euskera' in all languages. I believe people should have the choice to continue calling a language or any other entity by the name it always had in whatever language they speak. Again, please tell me if this is not a fair point. Patchy. Edited by Patchy on 17 November 2010 at 1:54am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Patchy Newbie Joined 5129 days ago 25 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* | Message 38 of 41 17 November 2010 at 1:37am | IP Logged | |||||
You seem to have misread the original reference on this point, Irishpolyglot. I don't believe I mentioned Americans at any point in my original reply. I was talking about the hypothetical outcome of some New Zealand politicians deciding to rename the Maori language. I believe it to be valid comparison. Edited by Patchy on 17 November 2010 at 1:38am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Patchy Newbie Joined 5129 days ago 25 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* | Message 39 of 41 17 November 2010 at 1:44am | IP Logged | |||||
No, it is simply reflecting a gross disagreement with your own terminology and opinions, which is part of what forums are for, after all. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Patchy Newbie Joined 5129 days ago 25 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* | Message 40 of 41 17 November 2010 at 1:52am | IP Logged | |||||
No, not academics. That's not what I said or even suggested. If we are going to call it a conspiracy, then let's call it a conspiracy of politicians, if anything against academics, as well as everybody else. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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