Cesare M. Senior Member Canada youtube.com/user/CheRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5171 days ago 99 posts - 135 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 1 of 64 29 September 2010 at 9:57pm | IP Logged |
So far I am the only Canandian I know that is fluent in Thai. If anyone else is from Canada and is fluent in Thai as well, please reply to this post. Thanks.
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BiaHuda Triglot Groupie Vietnam Joined 5364 days ago 97 posts - 127 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Vietnamese Studies: Cantonese
| Message 2 of 64 01 October 2010 at 1:51am | IP Logged |
Wow! Thats an impressive language list 34 languages and Thai isn't even mentioned. Sorry I don't speak Thai though.
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lichtrausch Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5961 days ago 525 posts - 1072 votes Speaks: English*, German, Japanese Studies: Korean, Mandarin
| Message 3 of 64 01 October 2010 at 2:06am | IP Logged |
Is there any rule on this forum against blatant false advertising?
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grunts67 Diglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5303 days ago 215 posts - 252 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 4 of 64 01 October 2010 at 5:32am | IP Logged |
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Be careful of what you are saying. You should check his youtube account and you will understand why he does know 34 languages. He got PDD Autism which make him a genius for languages but a poor student on other matters.
As far as I am concern, I happy for him to have found somethings he excel in and that he is able to communicate with others (a problem that some autism have).
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ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6143 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 5 of 64 01 October 2010 at 5:52am | IP Logged |
grunts67 wrote:
lichtrausch wrote:
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Be careful of what you are saying. You should check his youtube account and you will understand why he does know 34 languages. He got PDD Autism which make him a genius for languages but a poor student on other matters.
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It's true that it's nice that he has found something that he feels he can excel in, but just because he has autism doesn't mean that we can call a much lower level of proficiency 'fluent.' Don't people with disabilities usually want to be treated like those without them? How should this be different with regards to fluency?
By the way, I have checked his Youtube account and saw his "39 language video" before it was deleted and for the languages that I could understand (and from comments from others) it wasn't anywhere near fluency.
I hope I haven't been too harsh or impolite. Please delete this message if it is construed as such.
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grunts67 Diglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5303 days ago 215 posts - 252 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 6 of 64 01 October 2010 at 6:01am | IP Logged |
ellasevia wrote:
grunts67 wrote:
lichtrausch wrote:
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Be careful of what you are saying. You should check his youtube account and you will understand why he does know 34 languages. He got PDD Autism which make him a genius for languages but a poor student on other matters.
As far as I am concern, I happy for him to have found somethings he excel in and that he is able to communicate with others (a problem that some autism have). |
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It's true that it's nice that he has found something that he feels he can excel in, but just because he has autism doesn't mean that we can call a much lower level of proficiency 'fluent.' Don't people with disabilities usually want to be treated like those without them? How should this be different with regards to fluency?
By the way, I have checked his Youtube account and saw his "39 language video" before it was deleted and for the languages that I could understand (and from comments from others) it wasn't anywhere near fluency.
I hope I haven't been too harsh or impolite. Please delete this message if it is construed as such. |
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As far as is fluency is concern, I can't say. Maybe he is only low-intermediaire but to be able to retain and learn that fast is amazing.
And don't worrie, you comment wasn't harsh or impolite.
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ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6143 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 7 of 64 01 October 2010 at 6:20am | IP Logged |
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I somewhat agree with you here. If he really did succeed in learning many of the languages he's listed here to a low-intermediate level in a time frame as short as a week or two (or even an hour, see here), that is admirable. However, it is not fluent in even the most basic sense, let alone native fluency, the level which he indicates for all of his languages on here that he supposedly speaks except for Italian, French, and Danish.
Another bothersome thing is just the sheer impossibility of learning this much this quickly. As Splog mentioned in the thread which I linked to above, he would have had to learn three words per second plus all of the grammar during that hour to have learned Latin to fluency. That just does not seem possible to me in the slightest. Also, his attitude of his mental superiority as an explanation for his accomplishments (whether they are true or not) is troublesome. Likewise, his lack of faith in criticism from natives in the languages he claims to speak (in this case a German commenting on his command of German)...
Take what you like from all this, but until I see some convincing evidence on his part I'm going to maintain this position.
Edited by ellasevia on 01 October 2010 at 6:23am
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BiaHuda Triglot Groupie Vietnam Joined 5364 days ago 97 posts - 127 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Vietnamese Studies: Cantonese
| Message 8 of 64 01 October 2010 at 7:21am | IP Logged |
I have to say I am skeptical, however; it takes alot of guts to make a public claim of 39 languages to fluency. You can fully expect to get raked over the coals on a forum like this and there are only two possible outcomes all or nothing.
I am interested in seeing what happens though.
Edited by BiaHuda on 01 October 2010 at 7:22am
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