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Kounotori Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 5345 days ago 136 posts - 264 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Russian Studies: Mandarin
| Message 9 of 27 28 October 2010 at 3:37pm | IP Logged |
William Camden wrote:
I would take this story with a pinch of salt. It may have happened that way, but the Daily Mail is widely regarded as Britain's most xenophobic daily newspaper, and guileless British people going abroad and being victimised by evil foreigners is one of its constant themes. Its general tone leads to critics referring to it as the Daily Wail, the Daily Hate and the Daily Heil.
It would be unfair to say it hates all foreigners. In the 1930s, it quite liked Adolf Hitler. |
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Minivan News is a bit more reputable source for all you doubters:
http://minivannews.com/society/sun-travels-to-compensate-cou ple-while-police-investigate-wedding-ceremony-video-12827
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| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6583 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 10 of 27 29 October 2010 at 4:13am | IP Logged |
I won't say I blame them, but I don't understand why they want to do the ceremony in a language they don't understand. To me that makes the whole thing a lot less meaningful. At a luxury resort like that, surely there are people who can do it in English?
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6012 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 11 of 27 29 October 2010 at 11:11am | IP Logged |
There's a certain amount of pretentiousness involved in language.
My mum was never a fan of sex and violence on TV, but when I was in my early teens she didn't have a problem sitting down and watching La Reine Margot with the family. It was in French, you see, so it was cultured.
Couples who go to this sort of ceremonies aren't really any different from the people whose photos end up on hanzismatter. If you don't know a language, using that language as a mark of your individuality is just stupid. I'm not saying they deserved it, but they did leave themselves vulnerable.
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| zamie Groupie Australia Joined 5254 days ago 83 posts - 126 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Modern Hebrew
| Message 12 of 27 29 October 2010 at 12:03pm | IP Logged |
You people don't understand the story. They were RENEWING their wedding vows. It was
spontaneous, not planned. This is not French, it's a small language that no one in their
right mind would learn, no offence. The only people who are pretentious are the ones
blaming them for not knowing the language..If anything, the perpetrators should be
blamed, it's just rude. I don't expect much from the koran though..
Edited by zamie on 29 October 2010 at 12:04pm
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 13 of 27 29 October 2010 at 12:21pm | IP Logged |
I have read the article from minivannews, and actually I find this article quite revealing (although I cannot know whether the whole thing is fake - there one just have to hope that the local authorities take the thing seriously if it is true).
It seems that the resort and local officials are more interested in keeping the video away from Youtube and maybe going for the whistleblower Shareef:
"Shakir said today that the company was waiting on the advice of its lawyers as to whether it had grounds to take action against Shareef, and had established a procedure for conducting the weddings and “eliminate the reading of anything in Dhivehi during the ceremony.”"
But where it is said in the first source that the responsible were removed from the grounds, this new source just says that
"Rasheed also said that he had become aware of the nature of the ceremony conducted by Food and Beverage Assistant Hussain Didi, and had banned Didi from performing any more ceremonies."
Banning from performing more ceremonies is not the same thing as firing mr. Didi on the spot. And he was clearly not alone in making this bad joke.
I have travelled a lot and of course I cannot always know what is being said around me. But my guess is that making an articial tourist enclosure totally isolated from the local population is one of the factors that may lead to a certain them-and-us mentality from those few locals that are employed within the reserved area. In spite of the damage done to the foreign couple I find that the whistleblower has done a valuable service to the travel business by showing the dark side of the resort idea.
One important motivation for travelling should be the possibility to meet genuine local people - and not just the staff of some resort.
Edited by Iversen on 01 November 2010 at 11:58am
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| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5833 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin
| Message 14 of 27 29 October 2010 at 8:44pm | IP Logged |
Arrests have now been made.
Two arrested over abusive Maldives wedding ceremony
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| zamie Groupie Australia Joined 5254 days ago 83 posts - 126 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Modern Hebrew
| Message 15 of 27 29 October 2010 at 11:15pm | IP Logged |
good.
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| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6583 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 16 of 27 30 October 2010 at 4:41am | IP Logged |
zamie wrote:
You people don't understand the story. They were RENEWING their wedding vows. It was spontaneous, not planned. This is not French, it's a small language that no one in their right mind would learn, no offence. The only people who are pretentious are the ones blaming them for not knowing the language..If anything, the perpetrators should be blamed, it's just rude. I don't expect much from the koran though.. |
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Not sure if you are referring to me, but I never suggested that they learn the language. I'm just a bit perplexed as to why they'd choose to renew their vows–something that's supposed to be meaningful, even if spontaneous–in a language that none of them understand. How does that not detract from the meaningfulness of the ceremony?
Of course, you can't blame the victim and the perpetrators are the ones to blame. I'm just a bit surprised by the choice, just like I'm surprised at people getting tattoos in languages they don't understand.
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