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| chucknorrisman Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5449 days ago 321 posts - 435 votes  Speaks: Korean*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, Mandarin, Lithuanian, French | Message 25 of 66 03 November 2010 at 2:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
Those kinds of sentiments are fading away these days, though. You would be surprised at how much Chinese characters were used back in the days (by that I mean 70s and 80s), and how little is used nowadays. Edited by chucknorrisman on 03 November 2010 at 5:15pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Romanist Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5283 days ago 261 posts - 366 votes Studies: Italian | Message 26 of 66 04 November 2010 at 12:12pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I can't see Japanese and Chinese writing systems falling out of use any time soon. But as far as we Westerners are concerned, I think it will pose less of a problem in future, because people will be doing more and more of their reading on electronic platforms like an iPad, and within a few years these will probably be able to convert entire texts to and from Romanized form with just a single click..
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| OneEye Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6851 days ago 518 posts - 784 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, Taiwanese, German, French | Message 27 of 66 04 November 2010 at 2:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
The thought of having to read a text in pinyin gives me headaches. It would be unreadable. Romanized Chinese just doesn't work. It's that simple. Japanese, maybe; I'm not familiar enough with it to say. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Huliganov Octoglot Senior Member Poland huliganov.tvRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5356 days ago 91 posts - 304 votes Speaks: English*, Polish, French, German, Russian, Spanish, Esperanto, Czech Studies: Romanian, Turkish, Mandarin, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 28 of 66 04 November 2010 at 8:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
Are you kidding? They are even planning which English word will be written in which hanzi character! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| chucknorrisman Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5449 days ago 321 posts - 435 votes Speaks: Korean*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, Mandarin, Lithuanian, French | Message 29 of 66 04 November 2010 at 10:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I personally think that if Japanese will continue to borrow English words instead of making its own, it would be nice to see kanjis newly made for those words. Edited by chucknorrisman on 04 November 2010 at 10:23pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| furrykef Senior Member United States furrykef.com/ Joined 6473 days ago 681 posts - 862 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Latin, Italian | Message 30 of 66 06 November 2010 at 5:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
If you can understand it spoken, why couldn't you understand it written? The only reason you think it doesn't work is you're not used to it. Unless you can demonstrate in some way that Romanized Chinese does not accurately transcribe the details of spoken Chinese, I'm simply not going to believe otherwise.
And I think it would be very much not nice to see it. You'll either end up with ateji, which pointlessly complicates things, or you'll have to devise an entirely new system so that there is a reasonable correlation between the English word and the new character. Edited by furrykef on 06 November 2010 at 5:19pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5524 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French | Message 31 of 66 06 November 2010 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think they should be adapted to existing characters, so there'd be a new type of reading and eventually we would be able to write English using a mixed script. Really, that would be awesome. Edited by GREGORG4000 on 06 November 2010 at 5:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| OneEye Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6851 days ago 518 posts - 784 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, Taiwanese, German, French | Message 32 of 66 06 November 2010 at 6:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
It isn't that simple. You're assuming that the purpose of written language is simply to record spoken language. That works when you're talking about alphabetic languages but not with Chinese. Written Chinese, especially in higher registers, uses a lot of classical expressions and turns of phrase that simply wouldn't make sense in pinyin. Written Chinese and spoken Chinese are two different beasts, to a much greater extent that in most other languages. So again, it just wouldn't work without significantly altering the way the language is written (beyond the superficial level of the script). Edited by OneEye on 06 November 2010 at 6:38pm 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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