DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6152 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian
| Message 1 of 8 04 February 2008 at 6:51am | IP Logged |
How does the 'gy'sound in the Hungarian, 'Hogy Vagy' ? Various guides say it's pronounced as a heavily palatalized 'd', but all I hear is a deep y sound.
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Vlad Trilingual Super Polyglot Senior Member Czechoslovakia foreverastudent.com Joined 6585 days ago 443 posts - 576 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Czech*, Slovak*, Hungarian*, Mandarin, EnglishC2, GermanC2, ItalianC1, Spanish, Russian, Polish, Serbian, French Studies: Persian, Taiwanese, Romanian, Portuguese
| Message 2 of 8 04 February 2008 at 7:07am | IP Logged |
I thought it's an easy sound but my friends in Italy when we had history classes together, they could not pronounce the name Imre Nagy even after some explanation.
Then I've seen a nice tool somewhere:
it's almost the same 'd' sound as in 'dune' the way americans pronounce it.
other similar sounds: дь, ď
hope it helps.
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 3 of 8 04 February 2008 at 8:05am | IP Logged |
It sounds to me like the British pronunciation of "DUty"
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DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6152 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian
| Message 4 of 8 04 February 2008 at 8:24am | IP Logged |
Thanks for the update. I should clarify that I hear the d' sound in Legyen szives, but not at the end of words. Does the sound change slightly at the end of words, or am I mishearing it ?
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Kisani Diglot Newbie Hungary Joined 6166 days ago 28 posts - 28 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Hungarian*, EnglishB2 Studies: German, French
| Message 5 of 8 16 February 2008 at 3:25pm | IP Logged |
DaraghM wrote:
Thanks for the update. I should clarify that I hear the d' sound in Legyen szives, but not at the end of words. Does the sound change slightly at the end of words, or am I mishearing it ?
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Well, I guess it's a little different if "gy" is at the end of a word, because then the sound is shorter... I'm not sure though... I'm Hungarian, but I've never wondered about our pronounciation, though I have heared "gy"s are difficult to pronounce for foreigners...
If you need some more help with pronounciation I have msn, and I can send you some sound messages if you want, just send me a pm, it's ok.
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tennisfan Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5361 days ago 130 posts - 247 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 6 of 8 17 November 2010 at 10:55pm | IP Logged |
I could use some help with this, too. I hear a -dg sound, like in the American English "judge," or "ajar." Is this not correct?
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Vlad Trilingual Super Polyglot Senior Member Czechoslovakia foreverastudent.com Joined 6585 days ago 443 posts - 576 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Czech*, Slovak*, Hungarian*, Mandarin, EnglishC2, GermanC2, ItalianC1, Spanish, Russian, Polish, Serbian, French Studies: Persian, Taiwanese, Romanian, Portuguese
| Message 7 of 8 18 November 2010 at 4:11am | IP Logged |
tennisfan wrote:
I could use some help with this, too. I hear a -dg sound, like in the American English "judge," or "ajar." Is this not correct? |
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Try to upload a sound file. It's difficult to say without hearing you say something, but 'Judge' or 'ajar' is not correct.
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Ubik Senior Member United States ubykh.wordpress.com/ Joined 5317 days ago 147 posts - 176 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin, Arabic (Egyptian), German, Spanish
| Message 8 of 8 21 November 2010 at 8:55am | IP Logged |
As far as pronouncing Magyar, Ive been critiqued by Hungarians a few times and it ends up
as if youre going to pronounce d with a y coming up, but let your teeth slide forward to
start forming a "gy" sound much like any average American would initially assume that
sound would be pronounced
As for Hogy Vagy, quick breathy H, a as in father, and then the "dg" sound, but separate
them as much as possible. There is a slight delay between pronouncing the d and then the
g, but the end result is much like we would pronounce in judge.
Hope that can be understood well enough.
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