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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5928 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 81 of 223 06 April 2009 at 8:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yesterday and today I've been learning the partitive case in Finnish, something I now realize I should done much earlier. As it turns out, I've already encountered it, but I failed to recognize that some of the basic greetings use this case. To give give just one example "hyvä" (good) and päivä (day) but when I greet someone, I can say "Hyvää päivää" (Good day) and this phrase is an example of the partitve case which is often used for objects another example would be "autoa" (a car) . The partitive case adds the followings endings: a/ä, ta/tä and sometimes tta/ttä. Oh no! I've run out of time again, I'll have to continue this post later.
EDIT: I'm home from school now, so I will resume my post. Rereading this, I can see that I still need to improve my typing, but now back to Finnish. The partitive case can describe indefinite quantities of an object; such as in the above examples: "autoa" (a car)and "Hyvää päivää (Good day). The "a/ä" is used when an uninflected word ends in a consonant followed by a short vowel or if the word ends in "j" which can act like a vowel. The "ta/tä" ending is for words that in the nominative case end in a long vowel or diphthongs, and I'm still unsure about the "tta/ttä" ending. I'll need more studying and practice to really understand the partitive, but this brief explanation is enough for now. I'll study Spanish after dinner. Nähdään taas Mick 4/21/09 2nd EDIT: I was mistaken, the ending "tta/ttä" is not used for the partitive case, but rather it would be the less commonly used abessive case which signifies "without". Wilma kindly pointed this out, and gives a better explanation of this on the next page, but I wanted to correct the original post. Edited by mick33 on 22 April 2009 at 1:51am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5902 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes Speaks: French*, Dutch, German | Message 82 of 223 06 April 2009 at 10:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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It's interesting. I didn't know of the partitive and I've searched little bit and discovered that Finnish and Estonian have it. Finnish is *very* difficult I think!!! I hope that you will have a happy easter :-) See you after one week or possibly 10 days/ 2 weeks.
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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5928 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 83 of 223 07 April 2009 at 12:48am | IP Logged | |||||
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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5928 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 84 of 223 08 April 2009 at 11:28am | IP Logged | |||||
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Afr: Ek het vir 'n rukkie geen Afrikaans hier geskrewe nie. Ek ken niemand te Afrikaans gesels nie, dus moet ek dit skryf as ek wil oefening kry. Ek het soms interessant nuwe woorde geleer en ek anders woordelys sal binnekort maak. Daar is 'n paar redes dat het ek somtyds Afrikaans en Spaans versuim te studeer, eerste ek het gesukkel met wiskunde, want ek dink wiskunde is verwarring en tweede ek het gewees bekommerd om Fins grammatika te begryp. Ek moet meer Fins woordeskat leer. Ek het vir drie maande die Fins taal gestudeer, en ek het groter verbetering verwag.
I haven't posted in Afrikaans in a while. Since I don't know anyone I can speak Afrikaans with, I need to write more Afrikaans. I've spent less time studying Afrikaans and Spanish lately because I'm having some difficulty in my math class and I'm anxious to understand Finnish grammar, but I also need to learn more words. After three months of study, I should know more Finnish. Lekker slaap Mick 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5928 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 85 of 223 10 April 2009 at 11:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
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For the last few days I've been learning more Finnish and Afrikaans vocabulary; with special focus on Finnish pronouns, therefore I hoped to write something coherent in Finnish today. Alas, the sentences I wrote in my Finnish study notebook were nothing but jibberish. I've already written about the partitve and nominative cases, but I must add that there is another equally important case; the genitive. One of the obstacles that I have encountered in trying to comprehend written Finnish (aside from my limited vocabulary) is that I did not know how the concept of possession was expressed; Finnish lacks a verb that correpsonds with "to have", but I needn't have worried, the genitve case indicates possession usually by adding "n" to a word. But there is also consonant gradation to contend with, something I still struggle with. In my next log entry, which I hope to post later tonight, I will list some of the new vocabulary words I've been learning.
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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5928 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 86 of 223 13 April 2009 at 7:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
rikkaus - wealth missä? - where? olla - to be syödä - to eat antaa - to give mennä - to go käydä - to go; to visit liukua - to slide mitä - what? or which? mistä - from where? or from which? kävellä - to walk kaikki - everything maailma - world My next two posts will have some new vocabulary for Afrikaans and Spanish. Mick Edited by mick33 on 13 April 2009 at 7:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Satoshi Diglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5827 days ago 215 posts - 224 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: German, Japanese | Message 87 of 223 13 April 2009 at 7:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Finnish? And AFrikaans? And Spanish?
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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5928 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 88 of 223 14 April 2009 at 10:43am | IP Logged | |||||
I took a test in Spanish last Wednesday, and I passed, but didn't do as well as I wanted to. I struggled with the stem-changing verbs, I couldn't remember all the conjugations even though I thought I knew them pretty well. Even the irregular verbs don't usually have radically different conjugation in the present tense. Here are a few Spanish words I've learned: la llave - key alegre - happy, joyful cansado/a - tired desordenado/a - disorderly la cabaña - cabin sucio/a - dirty limpio/a -clean This week I will be learning about the present progressive tense in Spanish, which should be fun for me; as I often use the progressive tense in English. Afrikaans does not have a progressive tense which seemed unusual at first though I've since learned that many languages either never had or no longer use a progressive tense. I look forward to learning how this tense works in Spanish and knowing about it will probably help me write and speak more naturally. Buenas noches Mick Edited by mick33 on 14 April 2009 at 7:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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