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| lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5926 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole | Message 1 of 28 20 October 2009 at 2:11am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Это он!
This is the year that I will get to basic conversational fluency in Russian! I spent last school year (November - July) learning the basic grammar, and I think I'm ready for the task of vocabulary building and cementing my grammar with real examples of... stuff! Yeah! Let's do it! Let's learn Russian! So, I'll start with my game plan: 1) Disect native-made materials for VOCAB and INTERESTING STUFF. a) Songs. I have already learned a few Russian songs in their entirety, and understand most of the words individually and together. I think this is important; this is where most of my pronunciation practice comes from. I like going outside on my swing and just singing to music, so this is great. Unfortunately, I don't get a feel for intonation, but that's where movies come in, and spending my time listening to conversations which I have no interest in repeating or learning feels like a fruitless endeavor. b) Short stories. My mom bought me a dual language book of Russian short stories, for which I am immensely grateful. I am going to start looking at the vocabulary of the short story "Бобок" as, so far, it is my favorite story and of reasonable length. c) Movies. This is where I will likely falter, as my LISTENIN SKILLZ still need tuning... that is to say, in a paragraph, I will probably understand two words. I admit my pathetic skills and that is why I seek to improve my understanding with sources like thisone. 2) STUDY GRAMMAR (Yeah... right...) a) Memorize some stuff (I have the cases down pretty well for nouns... adjectives and pronouns and all other non-normal-nouns screw me up pretty well.) b) Learn stuff people rarely use (passive adverbials, or whatever) 3) Find some people and TALK TO THEM (mainly through e-mail because I think my parents would axe all electronics in the house if I actually spoke with a person I didn't know). I hope to be able to provide word lists so that those intereted can FOLLOW MY PROGRESS with all caps. Today, I leave you all with these fascinating new words, from my failed attempt at making a .ru email address (my host, email.ru, keeps asking me to log in and I ain't taking that shiz): простой - weak? надeжный - hopeful? Создать почтовый ящик - create a mail box Введён недопустимый пароль. - Entered invalid password (not sure what "Введён" is; doesn't fit with any conjugation pattern I've seem so far. :x) Введённый пароль основан на часто используемом слове или последовательности символов. - Your password is based on frequently used words or sequences of characters (but that was my easy throwaway password!) Отключить Защиту по Сетевому Адресу - disable protection on network address (what is this?) Отключить Защиту по Cookies - disable protection on cookies (I like how cookies is in the Latin script) Количество попыток: 2/10 - Number of attempts: 2/10 (This is a lie: the text DID match and I only entered it once. this was for a compltely different e-mail site, by the way, which hated my attempts at matching the CAPTCHA text so much that I couldn't make an address there. Oh well, their loss.) Введенный Вами текст не соответствует тексту на картинке. - The text you entered doesn't match the text in the picture. (There's that Введенный word again!) EDIT: Введённый is apparently 'entered'. How odd! I suck at keeping a diary, so I hope that maybe this time, it will be different... ;) До свидания! Edited by lynxrunner on 20 October 2009 at 7:00am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5926 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole | Message 2 of 28 20 October 2009 at 3:20am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Just for fun, I'll post a recent 'song deconstruction' I did. This is not native material (it's a cover of ABBA's SOS in Russian), but I love this band, so shh.
This is how I remember words and grammatical constructions. It's very literal, but I find that this helps me more than an idiomatic translation. О где же счастья дни, их не найти теперь. Oh, where ARE those happy days? I find them not now. Опять стучусь к тебе, но ты закрыла дверь. Again, I knock to you, but you close the door. Куда ушла от нас любовь, я не пойму никак. To where from us love went? I understand nothing. Нам было так легко, сердца стучали в такт. It was so easy to us, hearts beating in time. Когда ты рядом, when you are near, я сигналю взглядом С.О.С. I signal with glance, SOS Любовь былая love being лишь меня спасает С.О.С. only saves me, SOS Без тебя, мне пути не найти знаю я. without you, I find not the path I know. Без тебя, как мне жить никого не любя. Without you, how can I live loving nothing? Ты от меня вблизи, но всё равно далёк. You are near from me, but all too far away. Ты мне дарил весь мир, но он теперь поблёк. You gave me the whole world, but it now fades away. И хоть пытаюсь каждый миг, я не пойму никак, And though I try each time, I understand nothing. Куда ушла любовь, зачем случилось так. To where did love go, why did it happen so? [refrain] стучусь - (I) know ушла - (she) went легко - easy стучали - (they) beat такт - beat, time вблизи - near равно - still далёк - far поблёк - (it) fades хоть - although пытаюсь - (I) try каждый - each миг - moment рядом - near сигналю - signal взглядом - with glance лишь - only спасает - (it) saves пути - path Edited by lynxrunner on 20 October 2009 at 3:29am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| SII Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5796 days ago 184 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 3 of 28 20 October 2009 at 9:46am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
Простой is simple, easy, common, plain, ordinary. Weak is слабый.
Надёжный is reliable, solid, dependable, safe. Hopeful is надеющийся or подающий надежды.
Введён is a verb. The infinitive is вводить, введён is the psat tense, perfective [aspect].
Don't use the capital letter: Отключить защиту по сетевому адресу. Probably, this means what protection must not use for some IP addresses.
Again, don't use the caps: Отключить защиту по cookies. In Russian sometimes we use "cookies", sometimes we write this word as it sounds: "куки".
Введенный is the past passive participle for the verb вводить. You are right, it is translate as "entered". Edited by SII on 20 October 2009 at 9:48am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| SII Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5796 days ago 184 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 4 of 28 20 October 2009 at 9:56am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
Стучусь is (I) knock, not know.
More exactly, ушла is (she) has went; (she) went is (она) уходит. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5926 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole | Message 5 of 28 21 October 2009 at 12:33am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
Thank you!
This was a copy/paste from the website, so yeah.
Fascinating. I would have thought that taking the time to switch the keyboard layout (even with the Language Bar Windows Vista has) would discourage this sort of thing.
It's nice to know exactly what it is.
Whoops - typo. Thanks for pointing that out.
Isn't ушла that she left and didn't come back? уходить - to leave (multi) уйти - to leave (uni-directional) Спасибо за всё комментариев! Edited by lynxrunner on 21 October 2009 at 3:15am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| SII Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5796 days ago 184 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 6 of 28 21 October 2009 at 11:31am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
Hmm... Yes, "to leave" is another option (?) to translate "уходить". I don't pay attention to the context in which "ушла" uses.
"Спасибо за все комментарии" or better "Спасибо за комментарии" ("все" really don't uses in such sentences). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5926 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole | Message 7 of 28 21 October 2009 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
Ah, thank you. I'll be sure to keep it in mind. Well, today I checked out a simple Russian vocabulary book from the school library. It's one of the two Russian books there (the other is conjugating verbs). I'm going to go through it, make a word list, and note which ones I should probably learn. If I feel particularly adventurous, I'll make a sentence for each word which I might actually make in real life (ex. I love to play guitar, The baby in the stroller was adorable, My father used a rusty rake, etc). I don't think I'll be able to do it now, but I'll advance as much as possible. When I'm done, I'll be sure to post my amusing sentences here. )) I wonder where those '))' smiles came from. :-) makes sense because it looks like a face. ^_^ looks like a face... but ) looks like a chin. Maybe it's just supposed to represent how big the smile is? )))) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5926 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole | Message 8 of 28 25 October 2009 at 4:37am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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I wrote a short story to learn some vocabulary. I wonder how one would say "Based on a true story!"
В моей школе, Пожарный оповещатель всегда звучает. Люди работает, чтобый его ремонтировать. Это вызывает звучать. Студенты думает, что если он правдиво звучает, умереем. Не знаем когда он правдиво звучает. Как странный! Словарный состав: пожа́рный оповеща́тель - fire alarm (от)ремонти́ровать - to fix вызыва́ть/вы́звать - to cause правди́во - truthfully умира́ть/умере́ть - to die (person) стра́нный - strange My pronunciation can be seen here. I'm going to a bookstore tomorrow. Hopefully, I'll be able to find good Russian materials. I was wondering if anyone here could reccomend books on the history of the internet (or computing in general) in Russia or the Soviet Union? I learned a few months ago that the @ sign is sometimes called a 'sobaka' in Russian because the soviet @ signs looked like they had dog tails. I thought it was cute. :3 1 person has voted this message useful |
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