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| genini1 Senior Member United States Joined 5472 days ago 114 posts - 161 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 25 of 36 11 December 2009 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | ||
I also come across this problem a lot as well, right now I'm going through Remembering the Kanji by Heisig and some of the one's at the beginning I see and just want to skip and go on to something I know I'll need. The 31st Kanji he lists is the one for gall bladder and I'm like I don't really need to know that one for awhile. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5990 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 26 of 36 11 December 2009 at 7:35pm | IP Logged | ||
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Actually, be careful about your assumptions. In English, courage comes from the heart, but in chinese it seems to come from the gall bladder. "大胆的" means daring/bold/courageous, and that middle character 胆 also means gall bladder. Maybe there's a similar word in japanese.
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| Shadow1984 Groupie United States Joined 5493 days ago 53 posts - 57 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 27 of 36 11 December 2009 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hey Kupo,
At least you have someone to help you with your French and give you the corrections that you need. I have tried chatting a couple of times and realized people will say that I speak good whatever language I am practicing, which I know is FAR from the truth and they don't try to correct me at all. It is probably because they don't want to make me feel bad about myself, but I would actually have them point out my errors instead so that I can make sure to try and not to make that same mistake again. I have found that I also say that they speak good English because how can I tell someone that they suck? I don't want to discourage them. I do however correct their English for them when I chat with them because I want to make sure they know that they are speaking it wrong for their own benefit. Genini1, When I got the James Heisig book the other day the first Kanji that I flipped to was GALLBLADDER that is really funny because I was thinking the same thing. I am pretty sure now that if I were to open the book to that page I could easily remember it because of this discussion. Doviende, That is very interesting on how courage has the word gallbladder in it. I guess it might be a better idea for languages with different scripts such as Japanese, Mandarin, and maybe Korean to just learn what you can because it may be used in another word. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Shadow1984 Groupie United States Joined 5493 days ago 53 posts - 57 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 28 of 36 11 December 2009 at 9:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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DAY 7
THURSDAY DECEMBER 10TH So.... on the 7th day I rested! Well, maybe just a little. I managed to study for almost 4 hours. During that study time I started to notice that my English spelling for some words have some extra letters in it like l,s,h. LOL. Good thing I am not taking any spelling tests anytime soon. The language that I didn't spend anytime on today was Spanish. Even though on my log it shows that I have been studying less for Spanish that is not intentional it is because for that day Spanish was the last thing that I had planned on studying. I just didn't get to it. I will make sure to make it first today. My sister was watching Stargate and I overheard them same planet vegan- HOMBRE so I that is what I practiced on for Spanish today. The word hombre. :) Here is my log entries for today................ GERMAN - 1 HR 44 MINS- 62 MINS on Texbook Neue Horizonte and and 42 mins on Geman Verb drills workbook. Total of 104 MINS. TOTAL TIME SPENT ON German AS OF 12/10/09 14 HRS 27 MINS = 867 MINS German DAILY AVERAGE 7 DAYS - 2 HRS 3 MINS A DAY Spanish - 0 MINS. TOTAL TIME SPENT ON Spanish AS OF 12/10/09 - 9 HRS 37 MINS = 617 MINS SPANISH DAILY AVERAGE 7 DAYS - 1 HR 28 MINS A DAY ITALIAN - 2 HRS 0 MINS-120 Minutes spent on Italian verb work book. I really was understanding the material so I decided to just keep going. TOTAL TIME SPENT ON Italian AS OF 12/10/09 15 HRS 38 MINS = 938 MINS Italian DAILY AVERAGE 7 DAYS -2 HRS 14 MINS A DAY TOTAL TIME SPENT FOR TAC 2010 - 7 DAYS = 39 HRS 42 MINS Goals not met today :( . Oh well there is always tomorrow. Edited by Shadow1984 on 11 December 2009 at 9:41pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5653 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 29 of 36 12 December 2009 at 7:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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Shadow, do you study for 1-2 hours straight per language, or do you take breaks (while studying the same language?)
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| Shadow1984 Groupie United States Joined 5493 days ago 53 posts - 57 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 30 of 36 12 December 2009 at 10:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hey CZ,
I do not have a set schedule when I study. I just make sure to study at least six hours a day. I do study right when I wake up though. I find it easier for me to learn things that way. That is why I take a nap everyday as well. When I study I usually can only study at least 1 hour at a time maybe a hour and a half. If I study more than I usually don't grasp the material as well. I also take 1 five minute break sometime when I am studying for a quick restroom break and to grab a glass of water (I do not count the break into my time). Here is the example of my log times in my notebook that I keep for today. I make sure to write down each study time right before I start and right when I am done because I want to make sure my minutes are accurate and that I don't forget if I studied an extra hour or if I am behind. Spanish ; 1:24 p.m. - 2:17 p.m 2:48 p.m.- 3:50 p.m German 5:45 p.m. - 6:15 p.m. 10:42 p.m. - 11:22 p.m 11:45 p.m. - 12:45 p.m Italian 3:00 a.m - 3:48 a.m. 4:45 a.m. - 5:57 a.m. I know that my sleeping schedule is off. That is because I don't have a job or school to worry about. Also if I find myself not grasping the material I just stop studying because otherwise it would just be a waste of time for me. As a new language learner I do find that I find that I retain the material better if I review what I have learned in my previous lesson in the book that I am studying from before I begin the new lesson. Every few days I also go back to do a review of everything I have learned up to that point. I also make sure to learn some new stuff even if the review of everything that I am learning takes a part of the majority of my study time. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5653 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 31 of 36 13 December 2009 at 2:31am | IP Logged | ||
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Ah, I see. I used to try studying an hour at a time, and then my attention went to watching tv in my target languages with English subtitles instead of studying. I learned in psychology class that the brain can only remember stuff for about fifteen minutes at a time. That's why I take many 5 minute breaks (listen to a song in my target language.) But, if it's working for you, then obviously there's no need to change. About reviewing, that's a good idea. I've never reviewed anything aside from vocab and kanji a day after because I've used multiple beginner's materials and the books usually build up and use older grammar from time to time.
Oh yeah, do you spend any time listening to audio? It's taken me hundred of hours of listening for my target languages not to sound like gibberish, and I think it's generally accepted that listening is the hardest thing in language acquisition. Anyways, keep up the good work Shadow. I'll be following your log every now and then to see your progress. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Shadow1984 Groupie United States Joined 5493 days ago 53 posts - 57 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 32 of 36 13 December 2009 at 11:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hey The Real CZ,
I actually heard the same thing from someone a while back. I feel it is working for me so I don't really mind it. As for audio I have not spent that much time on it yet except to get the basic sounds of the language into my head. I think that listening is very important and speaking as well but I have planned to go heavily into listening next month and then set alot of time for speaking the next month. I find that there are drawbacks to this for example pronouncing the sounds wrong in my head but I do not mind that I will simply work on fixing my pronunciation when I start my listening exercises. For me I find that it would be most benefit to pick up a lot of vocab and as much grammar I can from books so when I actually hear it I will be able to pick it up faster and correct my pronunciation or see how the grammar is working from that point. It is actually difficult for me to watch a show and have it sound like gibberish which I have tried. I do know that it works for some people though. The reason why I will also work on my chatting/speaking later is because I have tried to chat with people online and we usually revert back to English, and English is not the language that I want to be learning so I find that even though I am trying to help someone with their English I am not effectively learning the language at a quicker pace then I might be able to if I were able to communicate mainly in the language that I were to target (which is being built up right now by studying vocab/grammar). I am not even sure if my study habits will work but I just feel that for me it makes sense to do things this way, but like you I will also plan to do a lot of listening to audio! Edited by Shadow1984 on 13 December 2009 at 11:55pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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