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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6273 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 17 of 41 07 January 2010 at 2:11pm | IP Logged | ||
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Glaswegian is probably the most Irish-influenced form of Scots. It is believed that it is more influenced by the speech of 19th century Irish immigrants than any other form of Scots.
The Scottish education system, which I went through, instructs in standard English, with a few Scottish traits. The speech of Scots goes through a kind of spectrum - everything from Standard Scottish English, which only differs from other forms of English through the accent and a few Scotticisms like outwith for "outside", to forms of speech that include rather a lot of Scottish words but are still comprehensible to English speakers, to those that a Londoner would comprehend with difficulty or not at all. It wasn't entirely seriously intended, but some English colleagues once asked if I could translate what a Glaswegian in the office was saying, as they said they could not understand his speech. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| elvisrules Tetraglot Senior Member BelgiumRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5470 days ago 286 posts - 390 votes Speaks: French, English*, Dutch, Flemish Studies: Lowland Scots, Japanese, German | Message 18 of 41 07 January 2010 at 4:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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I was once in a bus in Scotland when the driver yelled down the bus at a couple of tourists "Yous wan'in tae get aff 'ere?". The couple looked at each other in confusion and then shook their heads. After a few minutes they suddenly realized they had missed their stop (I could understand their French). I was trying not to laugh but on the other hand felt really bad for them. :(
I friend of my father once mistook Scots for Gaelic if you can believe it, despite sitting at a table where it was spoken for a good 3 minutes... I've also heard of this happening to others. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6273 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 19 of 41 08 January 2010 at 6:37pm | IP Logged | ||
Lenin had a rather similar experience when he first left Russia. He thought he knew German, until he actually went to Germany (I can't recall if it was Munich or Berlin). He couldn't understand what a tram conductor was saying, presumably in dialect or very colloquial language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6273 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 20 of 41 12 January 2010 at 3:08pm | IP Logged | ||
I have heard older people in the Edinburgh area speaking like the "Average Scots" example, but with one "strong" addition - bairns for "children". 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| elvisrules Tetraglot Senior Member BelgiumRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5470 days ago 286 posts - 390 votes Speaks: French, English*, Dutch, Flemish Studies: Lowland Scots, Japanese, German | Message 21 of 41 22 January 2010 at 11:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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I found an interesting Scots recording on a website dedicated to Dutch dialects, of all places! Anyway, it's very interesting to listen to as it seems much "broader" than anything I've heard myself in Scotland, and more at the level of the Scottish literature and poetry
I wonder if anyone knows of more such records? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6012 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 22 of 41 23 January 2010 at 12:33am | IP Logged | ||
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They hae ane or twa on this wabsteid: http://www.tobarandualchais.co.uk
Ye micht want tae tak a louke oer ae few pages o Tocher an a. There's the odd thing in the US Library of Congress American Memory page. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| davidwelsh Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5530 days ago 141 posts - 307 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, Norwegian, Esperanto, Swedish, Danish, French Studies: Polish, Sanskrit, Tibetan, Pali, Mandarin | Message 23 of 41 27 February 2010 at 10:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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"Lowland Scots" is now available to be added to our profiles btw:) Edited by davidwelsh on 27 February 2010 at 10:50pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Virginian683 Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6778 days ago 43 posts - 50 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Russian | Message 24 of 41 06 March 2010 at 4:55am | IP Logged | ||
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I haven't found anything written in Scots that I haven't been able to read. The only difference with English is orthography. This is supposed to be a separate language?
Let me put it this way, if Scots is a language, then I also speak in addition to Standard American English: 1) Carolinian (I ain't found 'im yet; he won't thair.) 2) New Yorkese (Youse get outta heeah) 3) Ebonics (Who you is?) 4) Canadian (eh?) 5) California Surfer (like...dude) My personal opinion: Scots is termed a "language" by those too lazy to learn Scottish Gaelic which is the real Scottish language. At most it is a dialect of English, just as the aforementioned examples. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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