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| Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5736 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes  Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 33 of 54 01 March 2010 at 12:33am | IP Logged | ||
Aquablue, I don't know you, and I really didn't mean to offend you. I don't think you should only do easy things in life, but I also don't think you should kid yourself, if something is difficult. My only point is, that at many points during your studies, you'll need a lot of stubbornness and passion, to go on. If you don't have these, you will quit sooner or later, and then, the time and effort will have been spent in vain. I cannot imagine that business can provide that passion, especially in light of what I've written in the post before. If it does provide this for you, and especially if you bring further interest in Chinese things, as you have implied, then go for it. PS: I didn't say you'd fail, but that most people fail. And the ones that are left at the end are usually not the ones that are in it for the money. But yeah, it'll lead to frustration a couple of times along the way :P Edited by Pyx on 01 March 2010 at 12:39am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| aquablue Senior Member United States Joined 6383 days ago 150 posts - 172 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 34 of 54 01 March 2010 at 2:08am | IP Logged | ||
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Are you planning on living in China for years?
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| canada38 Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5496 days ago 304 posts - 417 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: Portuguese, Japanese | Message 35 of 54 01 March 2010 at 2:18am | IP Logged | ||
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lichtrausch,
I should have expressed myself differently because I missed my own point. I mean that there are many more factors at hand concerning the economic utility of both languages than just GDP etc. I just don't want to see someone turned away from a language because someone else's bad experience posted online. I know we should always consider the failure of others as a caution for ourselves, but life is also about taking risks sometimes or achieving to be the best. Pyx, I do agree with you. A lot of people these days think knowing Mandarin is the path to riches, when in fact there are much better ways to achieve that goal. All I meant by the entrepreneur illustration was that working like crazy for yourself for an okay income may be less appealing than working for someone else for more money, but if you grow the business, you can sell it later on for a huge sum. It's the same with Mandarin; knowing a conversational level won't really do too much because the Chinese are likely to speak just as good of English (not always but often). But a high level of Mandarin could be very useful, but of course that will take years of work, just like the business example. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| aquablue Senior Member United States Joined 6383 days ago 150 posts - 172 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 36 of 54 01 March 2010 at 9:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Of course, if you wanted to learn any Asian language due to interest, it would usually be Mandarin unless you had a specific interest in Korea or Japan.
However, Korean seems to be a very beautiful language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| qklilx Moderator United States Joined 6187 days ago 459 posts - 477 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean Personal Language Map | Message 37 of 54 01 March 2010 at 10:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Economically, sure Korea might match up to Japan. They've made an amazing amount of progress in 60 years. Culturally, no, it will not catch up. Japan's cultural exports are too popular with westerners to die out any time soon. I remember when Looney Toons were THE cartoon to watch, and then over short period of a few years now you're hard pressed to find it at a decent hour. It's all Japanese animation. Even the American cartoons have a Japanese influence.
Yes, Korea has its dramas and music, but that's a different realm from Japan's main exports, and aside from that and the shopping districts most westerners know more about North Korea than South Korea. Japanese culture manages to draw in more people. At this point I believe that Japanese is about to be the new Spanish. There are more and more people reaching the advanced stages which means that to get a job with the language you'll need other skills to make yourself stand out. I personally don't believe in the China hype and I'm not interested in the country anyway. My interests lie in Korea. The only frustrating thing about it is when a fellow American tells me I should learn Chinese instead. They're giving me economic advice they don't even follow! 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Vinlander Groupie Canada Joined 5822 days ago 62 posts - 69 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 38 of 54 05 March 2010 at 5:22am | IP Logged | ||
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Lol this thread is a joke, I love korea, It's my favorite asian country, but in terms of economics its so tiny its not fit. At least compared to China. The hype is that it'll be richer than the USA in about 25 years, the negative view is that it'll be about 40. Every 5 years there pumping out a korea worth of cities. The number are really really really, massive.
Sure you can't predict the future but it's just as likely the usa will collaspe as it is that China won't be a massive economy. If China's Economy fell apart tomorrow the world would fall apart. The fact is much of the world is banking(no pun intended) on the growth of china. It's like watching a Giant get out of bed in the morning we can't guess if it's gonna throw cars or trucks but either way WATCH THE FAWK OUT. Plus chinese imigrants are everywhere atleast in canada. I've had more contact in canada with chinese people than all other groups combined and thats including Frenchies. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 39 of 54 05 March 2010 at 5:34am | IP Logged | ||
...Frenchies? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| aquablue Senior Member United States Joined 6383 days ago 150 posts - 172 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 40 of 54 05 March 2010 at 6:17am | IP Logged | ||
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Korea will be as a whole richer than China for decades, b/c China's economy would have to double or triple the US GDP to have a similar GDP/Capita and standard of living as Korea due to its massive population of peasants. Of course that doesn't mean that China won't have richer people, or taller skyscrapers in their major cities. Still, it is still a developing country with issues no matter how stunning things look on the surface. I don't know when or how the Chinese government will attempt to improve the standard in the major cities in China.
Edited by aquablue on 05 March 2010 at 6:20am 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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