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TheBB
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 Message 1 of 5
22 September 2010 at 11:23am | IP Logged 
I didn't really know where to post this, but since my Russian is still rather limited, I figured not to post it in the Russian forum. :)

So I'm trying to learn Russian, and I'm using Anki to train my vocabulary. Whenever I add a word to Anki, I look it up in a grammatical dictionary to check if it has any irregular forms, in which case I need to check those too.

My physical dictionary is handheld (bag-sized), and contains quite a bit of information, but with disgustingly small types, and it's a pain to look up in it.

The Babelpoint database is very good but usually too small.

The seeLRC database is much bigger, but it's annoying to have to log in all the time, and it doesn't show the stress points.

The STARLING database is huge, shows stress points, but has a tragically bad user interface. You look up a word, get a pop up, and to search for a new word you have to switch tabs. Since I navigate with my keyboard, I can't switch tabs without having to switch back to a latin keyboard setup, but I need the cyrillic keyboard setup for typing in words.

So, I have designed a better interface for the STARLING database here.

All it does is grab the data from STARLING, and then presents it in a better way. The search input is on the same page so you don't have to navigate anywhere. If there are several words that match, there will be a tab for each one. Stress points are marked with red instead of apostrophes.

It looks very nice in Firefox, but since the HTML from STARLING is so old fashioned, I can't guarantee results for other browsers (let me know if something looks odd).

I think it should work independent of locale settings, but I haven't tried anything other than UTF-8.

You can search for both English and Russian words. My focus was the Russian ones though. There are some issues with the English search, I might fix those in the future.

If you see a bug, please let me know!

Note 1: STARLING does not accept the ё character... so always write е instead. The output will have ё.

Note 2: The "dictionary information" field data are pulled straight from Andrey Zaliznyaks "Grammaticheskij slovar' russkogo jazyk" and are explained there in the introduction. However, I don't have this book, nor could I read it if I did, so if anyone wants to help me figure out what all this means, that would be great. Getting hold of the introduction to that dictionary would be a great first step. Pretty please! :)

Hope you find it useful.

http://www.sam.math.ethz.ch/~efonn/stuff/rusdict/
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dagojr
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 Message 2 of 5
22 September 2010 at 4:08pm | IP Logged 
I've only spent a few minutes looking at this, but this looks incredibly useful. Thanks!

I've used wiktionary in the past as a similar reference. Unfortunately, there are quite a few errors in the English version, though ru.wiktionary.org seems a bit better.

Edited by dagojr on 22 September 2010 at 4:09pm

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dagojr
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 Message 3 of 5
23 September 2010 at 3:38am | IP Logged 
I just got home and have had the opportunity to play around with your dictionary a bit. I've figured a few things out.

When you search for a noun, the first letter is almost always м, с, or ж. This means masculine (мужское), neuter (среднее), or feminine (женское). It indicates the gender of the noun.

Some unusual words like деньги which don't have a singular form are proceeded by an мн (множественное) which means plural, and then indicate a gender.

Words like человек have an о (одушевлённое) after their gender is indicated to show that they are animate nouns, i.e. people or animals, and hence have a different accusative case than inanimate nouns.

I'll provide more info when I figure more out.

Edited by dagojr on 23 September 2010 at 3:39am

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Ericounet
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 Message 4 of 5
10 October 2010 at 4:15pm | IP Logged 
Hi,

you could add an utf-8 codded entry appart from KOI-R and windows ...

hope this help,


Eric!
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Oleksiy
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 Message 5 of 5
13 October 2010 at 7:18pm | IP Logged 
Hello! My name is Oleksiy. I live in Kyiv, Ukraine.
I want to learn English, my level is intermediate. I would glad speak with
person who is interesting to study Russian or Ukrainian and to teach me English.
My skype-poznyki, ICQ-615180015



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