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Two years of intensive study: Russian

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maydayayday
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Speaks: English*, German, Italian, SpanishB2, FrenchB2
Studies: Arabic (Egyptian), Russian, Swedish, Turkish, Polish, Persian, Vietnamese
Studies: Urdu

 
 Message 9 of 13
28 September 2010 at 5:24pm | IP Logged 
Merv wrote:

Let me suggest that until you have audio confirmation, you do not read Russian based on the Cyrillic
"equivalents." It is not phonetic, and accent position (which determines pronunciation of many unstressed vowels)
is unpredictable.

I think reading aloud and even reading text silently is not a good idea unless the language is practically 100%
phonetic, but even in Spanish I see some things that are not quite phonetic and that I would learn incorrectly if it
weren't for audio.

Regarding handwriting, probably just go online, look for some letters by "famous people" in the handwritten
form and the typed transcript, and from that see how people "practically" write their cursive. Then practice it
yourself.


Sorry I was suggesting that you have your language buddy listen to you read rather than reading to yourself and propagate errors. That is how I started learning Polish with my language buddy. I didn't make myself clear in my original exposition.

Merv; your tip of looking for letters by famous people and a transcript is wonderful: thank you so much: I will definitely use that when I revisit my Russian.
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option
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 Message 10 of 13
29 September 2010 at 11:09am | IP Logged 
I'm in my second year of Russian study at university, and when I was using it this summer in Georgia and Ukraine it really made me realize just how bad I am at actually speaking it. As I started typing this post I realized that I really don't have a whole lot of relevant advice to give you since I'm only halfway through what you plan to do, but I'm going to echo what others said about doing at least a little work on it every day. Cases are difficult if you've never seen them before, but you get the hang of it as you move along. The hardest aspect of the language (IMO) is shifting stress, as there are NO rules that regularly determine it. Just immerse yourself as much as possible, and above all have fun, as it's a very interesting and fun language.

EDIT: For reference, I've been learning through the Golosa texts, and as far as I can tell they're very good.

Edited by option on 29 September 2010 at 11:10am

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justberta
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 Message 11 of 13
02 October 2010 at 10:53am | IP Logged 
When would someone ever write to you using Cyrillic handwriting?! No matter what
developing country I find myself in locals always communicate with me using voice, text
messaging or IM... Just make a Cyrillic keyboard using stickers on your computer
instead...
The penguin book is very good, it's all you need to start I believe. As well as some
audio of course.
I think you would be quite fluent after 2 years of study but remember that it would still
take some time getting used to the way locals speak, slang, accents etc. Real people
don't speak clearly like in the audio material. Maybe if you spoke to someone on Skype
everyday for 2 years you could achieve the same, all though you would need a couple of
different people, old, children, students etc. because people speak in different ways.

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hobbitofny
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 Message 12 of 13
03 October 2010 at 4:19pm | IP Logged 
I would recommend NB Karavanova's Survival Russian: A Course in Converstional Russian. If used with Spoken Russian or FAST Russian, you should be able to handle speaking with Russians in most common settings.


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Oleksiy
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 Message 13 of 13
13 October 2010 at 7:21pm | IP Logged 
Hello! My name is Oleksiy. I live in Kyiv, Ukraine.
I want to learn English, my level is intermediate. I would glad speak with
person who is interesting to study Russian or Ukrainian and to teach me English.
My skype-poznyki, ICQ-615180015


Edited by Oleksiy on 13 October 2010 at 7:21pm



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