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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes  Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 17 of 25 05 October 2010 at 10:41am | IP Logged | ||
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Katherevousa was the official language for administration and 'serious' publishing until 1976, but not necessarily the language actually used in normal written communication - any Greek citizen from that period will know the answer to that question. It was kicked out because it was seen as something connected with the bygone junta, but I have seen many texts where remnants of it persisted even in newer texts that otherwise were written in pure Dhimotiki.
I personally didn't learn Greek early enough to read much 'pure' Katherevousa (and I have not tried actively to find such materials), but I did buy a number of Dhimotiki textbooks and dictionaries around 1980, and they have three accents and two aspirations and other things that hark back to an older period before the spelling reform. So the presence of such signs is not a proof that you are dealing with material in Katherevousa, but their absence definitely points towards Dhimotiki. Edited by Iversen on 05 October 2010 at 10:47am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| 1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5374 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian | Message 18 of 25 05 October 2010 at 7:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ok,my post got erased.I guess it was harsher that senin's but the truth hurts.Anyway modern greek is not very popular,which is odd since we get a lot of tourists each year.Maybe laziness is the reason why most of these tourists do not make an effort to learn even some basic phrases.
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| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7104 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 19 of 25 05 October 2010 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | ||
The beaches of Europe are littered with chavs who only want the UK with a bit of sun, so don't take it personally. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6143 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 20 of 25 06 October 2010 at 12:27am | IP Logged | ||
In many places Greek is often seen as an impenetrable, impossible language for anyone to learn who is not Greek himself ("It's all Greek to me!"), so this might add to the reluctance of many people to attempt it, as is the case with other stereotypically difficult languages like Japanese and Chinese. When I ask people sometimes what they think is difficult about Greek, they almost always mention that it uses a different alphabet as the first argument even though that is still one of the easier things, but it is perceived as difficult. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| John Smith Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6043 days ago 396 posts - 542 votes Speaks: English*, Czech*, Spanish Studies: German | Message 21 of 25 13 October 2010 at 9:22am | IP Logged | ||
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Less than Spanish?? Yeah.. sure.
Check out this site http://www.foundalis.com/lan/greek.htm
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| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 22 of 25 13 October 2010 at 10:30am | IP Logged | ||
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I have checked out that site. Fine site, but it doesn't change the situation. The morphology syntax of Modern Greek is more complicated than that of Spanish (because Greek has got three cases and Spanish has got one), but the pronouns are more or less at the same level, and the verbal morphology of Greek is simpler. OK, maybe a draw, but still nothing to be scared of. Edited by Iversen on 13 October 2010 at 10:33am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 23 of 25 13 October 2010 at 10:50am | IP Logged | ||
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I've got modern and ancient Greek on my language hit list, and would love to learn them both one day.
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| Lamonte Newbie United States Joined 5195 days ago 12 posts - 22 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, French, Modern Hebrew, Greek | Message 24 of 25 13 October 2010 at 6:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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I began learning Modern Greek about two months ago with Teach Yourself Beginner's Greek and an online Greek course (Kyros). I have had courses in Koine, so the alphabet, some vocabulary and other aspects have not been a problem. I thought it would be difficult to adjust from an Erasmian pronunciation to a modern pronunciation, but its actually been an easy switch. And its all been fun...
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