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| Katie Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6722 days ago 495 posts - 599 votes  Speaks: English*, Hungarian Studies: French, German | Message 33 of 47 07 July 2009 at 5:03am | IP Logged | ||
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andee - what a good idea! I like it!!
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| Katie Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6722 days ago 495 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, Hungarian Studies: French, German | Message 34 of 47 10 July 2009 at 6:42am | IP Logged | ||
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Haven't updated very much this week!
I'm now working on Chapter 9 of FSI Hungarian. Getting there slowly, but I'm now focusing solely on this as my 'at home' study material. I've been watching more Hungarian DVDs, still reading & using the audiobooks... my newest project is to write some short stories for my friends' children in Hungarian. That should be a good test! I plan on posting them on Lang-8 for correction prior to actually making the book. On top of this, this weekend will be a full immersion weekend. I will be staying with my Hungarian friends who have promised to make it a weekend of all things Hungarian! I'm looking forward to it! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Katie Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6722 days ago 495 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, Hungarian Studies: French, German | Message 35 of 47 27 July 2009 at 3:18am | IP Logged | ||
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Sziasztok!
It has been a while since I posted my last message here, but I assure you I have been working very hard! Over the last few weeks, I have really come to a point where I feel that everything is 'on the tip of my tongue' so to speak. I'm at a point where I feel the grammar classes etc are fantastic, but beyond that, I need to read, write, listen and speak, rather than study another language learning book. I've also become very aware of the fact that all of my language instruction books are in English - so all the time I spend 'learning' is really just in my native language. In contrast, my Hungarian teacher teaches grammar etc in Hungarian (with bits of English here and there if I need it) I'm currently on the hunt for a monolingual dictionary and a lot more native resources. I'd love to get my hands on even some school workbooks - because I don't care what it is really, just that it is in Hungarian! And if I can get grammatical explanations in a book, in Hungarian, then I'm more than happy to study it. [This isn't to say that if I'm worried about a particular thing, that I don't look it up in my books. Of course I do, I just don't go to the books and study them 'just because' at the moment.] Just to clarify, when I say I don't need to 'study' I mean that I don't feel that it is aiding me any longer, to study English language learning books. I feel that I would be much better off reading, listening and watching native materials to further my learning. I don't know every word, of course, but I have found USING the language to be a better way for vocabulary acquisition. When I need a word, I look it up and SRS it and then just keep going. I continue to use Anki every day. I love this program! I have two different systems running. One is for random words that I come across that I need (I never put these in my own sentence - I just use the stem word, unless an example is given). The other is for phrases. On top of that, I would estimate anywhere between 8-10 hours have been devoted to listening, reading, writing, watching etc each day. I'm trying desperately to get this up as high as possible because I think immersion is the key now! I use lang-8 quite regularly now (I either write a journal entry or send some PMs every day in Hungarian), as well as talking to my Hungarian friends online and in person :) Call me naive, but I'm sure this approach has encouraged me to become a lot more active in my chosen language! Instead of feeling terrified and 'closed' when it comes to speaking Hungarian, I now find that - even when talking to non-Hungarian speakers - I am thinking "hey, I could answer this is either language!". And when I am speaking Hungarian, less and less is it being translated from English to Hungarian and more and more is it becoming 'natural'. ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOTE: My good old French studies fell to the wayside AGAIN. I actually chose to do this because I want to keep pushing this immersion lifestyle at the moment. I feel like I'm on a roll and so close to achieve a decent level of fluency, that I don't want to spend time doing anything else! I'm even picking up books I had previously gotten annoyed with (because I couldn't understand everything)! And my approach is different too - if I don't fully understand something, it seems these days I'm happy to first try to figure it out in context and then, trust that later on in the book - as I progress - I'll get a grasp of it. Anyway, so I'm still collecting resources for French. I've found some DVDs, some podcasts, I'm looking at some books, etc. BUT............. I have also been thinking about Japanese. Why? Well I'm not entirely sure. I have previously tried to learn Japanese - but perhaps all the interest in the AJATT method has set me off thinking that I really COULD learn it... and also that, whilst Hungarian doesn't really have a lot of usefullness outside of my personal associations and some travel to specific areas, Japanese could help me to get a better job! So anyway, today I went to the library. I put a request in for some Hungarian books and DVDs etc to be brought to our library under our community languages scheme (there is currently NOTHING there). While there, I couldn't help but notice the MASSIVE amount of Japanese resources there... and curiosity got a hold of me. So I have a manga book and 2 Japanese DVDs... just to have a look at! At the same time, I also got 2 French DVDs but no books. I should have looked at them too, but I got sidetracked with the Japanese stuff and didn't even think about it until now. Any thoughts on which would be better???? French of Japanese???? Because honestly, at this point, I'm not sure! I think I could acquire French sooner (because of previous studies etc), but is that really a good enough reason to re-learn it? It's still going to take a good few years for me to grasp it.... and if I follow AJATT style, I actually think it is possible for me to have a reasonable level of Japanese in 2 years... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5733 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 36 of 47 27 July 2009 at 11:03pm | IP Logged | ||
Personally, I'd say French. It's spoken on almost every continent, if I'm not mistaken. You'll widen your boundaries almost anywhere with French. With Japanese, eh.. But yeah, it's your choice. So, I'm curious as to why you're studying Hungarian. Is there a community where you live that has a lot of Hungarians? Or do you want to visit Budapest? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Katie Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6722 days ago 495 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, Hungarian Studies: French, German | Message 37 of 47 27 July 2009 at 11:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for your thoughts Kyrie :)
My biggest reason for studying Hungarian is family. Well actually, very close friends whom I would consider family. They are native Hungarians. It started out that I thought it would be a good idea to learn Hungarian because I had access to native speakers, unlike any other language I had tried to learn. As we became closer though, it then became almost a 'necessity' in my life. I see them regularly and hear them speak Hungarian, their children speak Hungarian, there is a large Hungarian community that we often visit.... books, tv... everything is in Hungarian 80% of the time. The kids ask me to read them a book - I want to know what I'm reading them! I also fell in love with the language. It sound beautiful to me. And then there is the fact that I am Godmother to one of the children and I feel that I SHOULD know his language and his heritage to be a better Godparent to him... So, from an initial little interest, it grew into good solid reasons... which is why I've never given up on it :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5733 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 38 of 47 27 July 2009 at 11:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ohh I see. Well that's great that you stick with it. And heck, your reason to learn is more solid than my reason to learn Italian or Portuguese. lol
Well, good luck with your studies! I hope that you achieve fluency. (: -Kyrie 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Katie Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6722 days ago 495 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, Hungarian Studies: French, German | Message 39 of 47 28 July 2009 at 3:56am | IP Logged | ||
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Kyrie,
Honestly, I think those reasons just 'fell' in place for me. As long as the desire is there - I think it's a good enough reason to learn a language! :) Some good news! I've been speaking to native Hungarians online for some time and I recently asked them, based on our associations, what level they think I would be. They said low intermediate. This is great! Considering I placed myself at basic fluency I am soooo happy to know that I am progressing! Of course, it depends on people's perceptions of what low intermediate is, I know... but hey, let me basque in the pleasure for a while! Edited by Katie on 28 July 2009 at 3:56am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7160 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 40 of 47 28 July 2009 at 6:02pm | IP Logged | ||
Az interneten van ket ingyenes magyar ertelmezo szotar. 1) http://osnyelv.hu/czuczor/ (a hires de regi "Czuczor-Fogarasi" internetes valtozata) 2) http://szotar.pistvan.hu/ (ez letoltheto elektronikus szotar) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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