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| rafey Newbie United States Joined 5764 days ago 24 posts - 25 votes Speaks: English* | Message 49 of 248 27 February 2009 at 4:19pm | IP Logged |
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It's interesting that the mind is perfectly capable of making sense of our perceptions if only we are able to 'let go,' so to speak and allow it to 'rearrange the furniture' to fit it's own agenda. If you listen to conversation without paying too much attention, your mind will absorb the intent without so much word knowledge. I think Douglas Hofstadter refered to this phenomenon as a kind of mental recurssion in which we subconciously translate language through a generic (hard-wired) meta-language in order to comprehend the symbolic meaning of the linguistic structures. Lewis Carrol had a good understanding of this odd phenom. and used it abundantly to create his personal witticisms in Sylvie & Bruno and his Alice stories. Just like riding a bike, your mind suddenly 'catches on' amd you acquire balance that never seems to abandon you when you are in need.
After about 6 months of living overseas, I found myself suddenly thinking in a language without at first realizing it and this continued to occur in what ever country I happen to be working and that occurred without my really trying to learn the language). Of course, one must mix with native speakers on a routine basis in order for this to happen. Additionally, I think it's important that one be able to master one's native language in order to be able to really master a foreign language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes  Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 50 of 248 28 February 2009 at 4:17am | IP Logged |
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Feb 27th – Day 18 – Group 1 Vocabulary (+10)
Nouns – Part 1-5 => Complete Nouns – Part 6 => (40/50) => Under Review 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 51 of 248 28 February 2009 at 4:19am | IP Logged |
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From Interesting to applied – (Interesting.... Part 2)
I was thinking today about how the potential for comprehension of the spoken target language seems to become enhanced as you fall asleep. Why? Unknown. Ultimately the reason is not important, the effect is. The primary complication is that window for improved comprehension only seems to become noticeable as you approach sleeps threshold, and that transition is fairly quick, I’d say about 10 minutes. Normally a window of that size, even if it brought an improved learning ability would be disregarded as being of little value, in this particular case however...it just so happens it’s not. Thanks to developments achieved under ‘Project Lucidity’ I have the ability to stop that transition right at the threshold and drag it out for hours. Actually in this case its not so much a development as a failure lol. While I achieving beautiful success with the MILD technique I could never get WILD to work properly, I would always get stuck transiting through the later stages of hypnagogia because I refused to let my body take control of my breathing, I’d end up just loitering right on the verge of being asleep for hours. In this case...that’s exactly what I’m looking for. I’m going to fathom a guess that this ‘improved understanding effect’ becomes greater the deeper into hypnagogia you progress. So I figure by bringing myself to the point were I would get stuck with WILD and staying there...I should, in theory, be able to take full advantage of this effect for as long I choose. Trials on.......hmmm what to call this???.........lol...........Trials on Deep Listening will commence immediately. Edited by Brian_N on 28 February 2009 at 4:20am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 52 of 248 01 March 2009 at 2:25am | IP Logged |
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Feb 28th – Day 19
Vocabulary (+10) Nouns – Part 1-6 => Complete Verbs – Part 1 => (11/50) => Under Review Verbs – Part 2 => (0/50) => Under Review Verbs-Part 3-5 => Pending Daily Quick Review => Complete Deep Listening => Undergoing assessment 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 53 of 248 01 March 2009 at 2:26am | IP Logged |
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Inertia...
Haha, the first 300 nouns are done and drilled in, 10% done Declan’s Flashcards. All in all I’m quite pleased, especially considering that 13 out of 19 days I was pulling 12 hour shifts at work. An normal person would have just went home and enjoyed their few hours before they crashed out...not me though, I spent them studying Russian, why? Because I’m a diehard lol. I just have to tough it out for another 10-15 days, then all of this will become habit. I’m over half way there. Soon inertia alone will be enough to carry on the effort...then I can stop fabricating reasons for myself why I’m learning Russian lol. Honestly I don’t even know why I’m doing this, I just started 19 days ago...and I now I can’t seem to stop. I could give you some crap that sounds good, but it would be just that...crap. But I keep learning, why? Because in that past 19 days my daily studying of Russian has begun to make all of this a new habit and so long as I keep feeding it, it’ll get stronger and stronger till it reaches the point where it will take effort not to study Russian. Kinda like smoking actually lol. Learning a language requires commitment above anything else, it only makes sense to turn it into a habit asap because come those days where effort and motivation are nowhere to be found...your habits will still drag you forward. Edited by Brian_N on 01 March 2009 at 2:27am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 54 of 248 01 March 2009 at 5:55am | IP Logged |
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R&D - Deep Listening MK1
Trials on deep listening have been completed. Deep listening is viable. Utilization to enhance verbal understanding of L2 will commence immediately. ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------- Overview/What is Deep Listening: Deep listening is a means to exploit the minds ability for L2 spoken comprehension as begins to pass through hypnagogia by utilizing a modified version of the Wake-initiation of lucid dreams (WILD) method to anchor the consciousness at the threshold of sleep. Background Information: Hypnagogia-Cognitive and affective phenomena-Receptivity and suggestibility (Quoted from Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia) Thought processes on the edge of sleep tend to differ radically from those of ordinary wakefulness. Hypnagogia may involve a “loosening of ego boundaries ... openness, sensitivity, internalization-subjectification of the physical and mental environment (empathy) and diffuse-absorbed attention,” Hypnagogic cognition, in comparison with that of normal, alert wakefulness, is characterised by heightened suggestibility, illogic and a fluid association of ideas. Subjects are more receptive in the hypnagogic state to suggestion from an experimenter than at other times, and readily incorporate external stimuli into hypnagogic trains of thought and subsequent dreams. This receptivity has a physiological parallel; EEG readings show elevated responsiveness to sound around the onset of sleep. Wake-initiation of lucid dreams (WILD) (Quoted from Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming) The wake-initiated lucid dream "occurs when the sleeper enters REM sleep with unbroken self-awareness directly from the waking state". There are many techniques aimed at entering a WILD. The key to these techniques is recognizing the hypnagogic stage, which is within the border of being awake and being asleep. If a person is successful in staying aware while this stage occurs, they will eventually enter the dream state while being fully aware that it is a dream. Application: The successful application of Deep Listening requires the individual to be able to maintain a calm control of their thoughts as they progress through hypnogia, an inability to do this will cause the mind to wander off and simply fall asleep. The anchor for Deep Listening is where the body/brain begins to take conscious control of breathing away from the individual. By resisting the body/brain’s attempts to exert control over this, it effectively puts the transition from being awake to asleep in a limbo, allowing the individual to utilize the unique effects present at this state of consciousness to more rapidly understand L2. Edited by Brian_N on 01 March 2009 at 2:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 55 of 248 01 March 2009 at 1:20pm | IP Logged |
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March 1st – Day 20
Vocabulary (+5) Nouns – Part 1-6 => Complete Verbs – Part 1 => (15/50) => Under Review Verbs – Part 2 => (0/50) => Under Review Verbs-Part 3-5 => Pending Daily Quick Review => Complete Daily Deep Listening => Complete Edited by Brian_N on 01 March 2009 at 1:20pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 56 of 248 02 March 2009 at 2:03pm | IP Logged |
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March 2st – Day 21
Vocabulary (+9) Nouns – Part 1-6 => Complete Verbs – Part 1 => (24/50) => Under Review Verbs – Part 2 => (0/50) => Under Review Verbs-Part 3-5 => Pending Daily Quick Review => Complete Daily Deep Listening => Complete 1 person has voted this message useful |
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