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| Segata Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 5172 days ago 64 posts - 125 votes  Speaks: German*, Japanese, English Studies: Korean, Esperanto | Message 1 of 5 29 September 2010 at 3:09pm | IP Logged |
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Long time reader, first time poster
What I would like to know is if there's anyone on this forum who has ever learned classical Japanese (古文). I've been learning Japanese for about three and a half years (university classes, self study) and now I'd like to study classical Japanese in order to read pre-modern Japanese literature. However, I kind of wonder what the best approach in learning a dead language might be. The thing is, my usual approach involves lots of reading and listening, yet I never really learned Japanese grammar (I guess I just kind of got used to it.). Now there's no TV show, movie or comic in classical Japanese that I've ever heard of nor are there any native "speakers". There's of course tons of literature, however I highly doubt there's any beginner friendly material among it. So, my options so far are: a) Memorizing the grammar rules. Kind of self-explanatory, but also kind of boring? b) Actively study new grammar/vocabulary and get used to it by reading (and listening) a lot. This is basically how I learned English and it's probably possible to study classical Japanese the same way if there's beginner friendly material out there. c) Immersion and "Anki" (aka. the "10,000 sentence method" or "All Japanese all the time"). This is how I learned Japanese and Korean for the most part. I guess this one is out of the question though. If anyone could enlighten me as to how they learned how to read classical Japanese, I'd be much obliged. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ketouzin Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5171 days ago 1 posts - 2 votes | Message 2 of 5 29 September 2010 at 7:59pm | IP Logged |
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This is a lovely site that explains grammar for classical Japanese
http://yslibrary.cool.ne.jp/haroajapa000top.htm It's not that hard really, little more than a few consonant shifts and archaic conjugations. Also, there is plenty to read if you look for it. In fact you'll see it very clearly lingering in things as modern as 玉音放送. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5179 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 3 of 5 29 September 2010 at 9:15pm | IP Logged |
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I was going to reccomend the same website~~
plus there is also : http://homepage3.nifty.com/bunpou/index.html both in Japanese. I don't know this language though, I was just browsing some Internet, because I was curious about it. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6295 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin | Message 4 of 5 30 September 2010 at 7:54am | IP Logged |
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Classical Japanese Reader and Essential Dictionary
Classical Japanese: A Grammar Both by Haruo Shirane. I picked them up a couple of years ago. They seem worthwhile. Hopefully one of these days I will actually work my way through them. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Segata Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 5172 days ago 64 posts - 125 votes Speaks: German*, Japanese, English Studies: Korean, Esperanto | Message 5 of 5 30 September 2010 at 9:41am | IP Logged |
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Thanks a lot for your recommendations :) I'll be sure to check them out.
On a second thought, option b) seems to be the most reasonable one, especially if you are someone who avoids memorizing grammar like the plague (e.g. me). Classical Japanese isn't that different, now that I take a closer look at it. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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