sumabeast Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6931 days ago 212 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written)
| Message 9 of 18 08 August 2006 at 10:02am | IP Logged |
HyeLezûn wrote:
I've always been SO CURIOUS, what does Armenian sound like to one who doesn't speak or understand it? I know the Armenian letters are really exotic looking and funky, but what language would most people say Armenian resembles? It would depend, in my opinion, on the dialect spoken (Eastern is heavily influenced by russian).
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I haven't heard spoken Armenian, so I can't comment on how it sounds.
But the script is very curious looking, almost like something from Tolkien's elf writting.
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HyeLezûn Bilingual Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6688 days ago 33 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English*, Armenian* Studies: French
| Message 10 of 18 08 August 2006 at 2:38pm | IP Logged |
Yes in my opinion there exists a large difference between the western and eastern dialects. For example, if one hasn't been exposed to the other dialect, they might not be able to understand much of whats spoken.
It's not just the accent, actual letters are pronounced differently as well: westerners will pronounce something with a T sound while the easterners will say it as a D. There are many of these variations.
Some words are completely different, and conjugation is different for the two dialects. For example, in western Armenian, saying "to be" is UHLAL, while in eastern it's LEENEL.
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jc Newbie Canada Joined 6671 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes
| Message 11 of 18 28 August 2006 at 12:14pm | IP Logged |
Hi,
My first attempt with the Armenian language was with Hippocrene Elementary Modern Armenian Grammar. To tell the truth, I soon felt discouraged by the way the language is explained, the letters that sometimes are difficult to tell, ... so I in few days I dropped. I tried some time later but with that book, I really found Armenian a difficult language.
But some days ago I found an interesting site to learn the basics of the language, with sounds and simple texts so I caught the Armenian bug. This time I'm learning the alphabet by just listening to the example words, so I'm not using any transcription, in my notebook I just write down the words and its meaning, trying to recall how these sounded. And it's proving good, for the moment.
The way to school
I'll let you know...
Then I'll try to contact some Armenian living here in Montreal, I've seen there are some Armenian schools, any one knows if there happen to be a library with Armenian literature?
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HyeLezûn Bilingual Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6688 days ago 33 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English*, Armenian* Studies: French
| Message 12 of 18 28 August 2006 at 5:23pm | IP Logged |
Hey JC. I don't know of specifics, but I know for a fact that Montréal will have a few if not several Armenian schools (Montréal has the largest armenian population in Canada).
Also, there are several websites with numerous links on the language, culture, etc. One in particular: www.armeniapedia.org
Good luck!
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jc Newbie Canada Joined 6671 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes
| Message 13 of 18 30 August 2006 at 3:49pm | IP Logged |
Hi HyeLezûn,
Thanks for the info. Precisely, while driving westwards from Montreal I saw an Armenian school by the highway. I'll have to drop by, surely they have some books in their library.
Hope to exchange some Armenian words soon, though as I said, first I'm concentrating only in the sounds, trying to read directly in the Armenian alphabet without thinking of grammar.
Bye!
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AML Senior Member United States Joined 6830 days ago 323 posts - 426 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish
| Message 14 of 18 30 August 2006 at 6:21pm | IP Logged |
HyeLez�n wrote:
I've always been SO CURIOUS, what does Armenian
sound like to one who doesn't speak or understand it? I know the Armenian
letters are really exotic looking and funky, but what language would most
people say Armenian resembles? |
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To me, it sounds most similar to Persian.
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Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6670 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil
| Message 15 of 18 31 August 2006 at 10:45am | IP Logged |
sumabeast wrote:
Good description Quackers.
no "he" or "she" in Armenian? I know that Persian makes do with one pronoun word that's used for male or female.
One would think that Armenian would resemble Greek or Persian? guess it would take someone who knew those langs as well to see any relationship.
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It's not surprising that the Armenian language shares some structural features with Turkish, as the Armenians used to live in the Ottoman Empire.
Turkish doesn't distinguish gender neither and the word order is SOV.
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Quackers Triglot Newbie United States Joined 6717 days ago 18 posts - 24 votes Speaks: English*, French, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, Bengali, Armenian, Italian, Russian
| Message 16 of 18 12 September 2006 at 5:48pm | IP Logged |
Marc Frisch wrote:
sumabeast wrote:
Good description
Quackers.
no "he" or "she" in Armenian? I know that Persian makes do with one
pronoun word that's used for male or female.
One would think that Armenian would resemble Greek or Persian?
guess it would take someone who knew those langs as well to see
any relationship.
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It's not surprising that the Armenian language shares some structural
features with Turkish, as the Armenians used to live in the Ottoman
Empire.
Turkish doesn't distinguish gender neither and the word order is SOV.
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Any structural similarities with Turkish may be purely coincidental, as
Armenian is an Indo-European language and Turkish is not.
Bengali, like Persian and Armenian, does not differentiate between "he"
and "she," and Bengali, like Armenian, does not have grammatical
gender. I would suppose that this lack of gender may be common to
Indo-European languages from Armenian eastward.
Likewise, Bengali and Persian (according to wikipedia) both use SOV
instead of SVO as their main patterns. Again, this may be common to
Indo-European languages from Armenian eastward.
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