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| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6078 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes  1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 25 of 39 25 October 2008 at 12:38pm | IP Logged |
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Can you show me a comparison of them, I would really like to know. Also, how much mutualbility is ther?
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6468 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 26 of 39 27 October 2008 at 2:00pm | IP Logged |
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DAY EIGHTEEN
I read through the 5 lessons of Ultimate Arabic that deal with the differences of MSA and the Egyptian dialect. Then, in my lesson we went over them again, things like pronunciation, pronouns, an overview of the difference in grammar... Ultimate Arabic uses romanization to indicate the pronunciation of Egyptian Arabic, while Hala decided to write it in the Arabic alphabet. We're using the same letters as before, with the following rule changes: - jiim is always pronounced as /g/ - qaaf is pronounced as 'ayn unless Hala says otherwise - thaa is always pronounced as /s/ and whenever thaa would be pronounced as /t/ we instead write taa - zay is always pronounced as /z/ and whenever zay would be pronounced as /d/ we instead write daal DAY NINETEEN Another Egyptian Arabic lesson. We're going through grammar topics that we had before and seeing how they compare in MSA and Egyptian Arabic. We're doing a lot more open conversation than before, also because the conjugation of Egyptian Arabic is a lot easier. TEL: According to Hala, Egyptian Arabic is 85% MSA (I can still use most of the vocabulary I learned), 7% Coptic and the rest is an independent evolution. So comprehension either way is pretty good once you get used to a few changes in pronunciation. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6078 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 27 of 39 28 October 2008 at 8:43am | IP Logged |
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Cool, thanks
So there should be no real problems learning them side by side (As in, Al-kitaab or similar is MSA, and so is Assimil, but MT is Egyptian) Thanks TEL 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6468 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 28 of 39 31 October 2008 at 11:47am | IP Logged |
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DAY TWENTY
Recognizing conjugated forms of verbs in Egyptian is not as easy for me as it was in MSA, even though there is no logical reason for it. I received a 10-page list of useful words and expressions in Egyptian Arabic, which we also studied during the lesson. Most of these are very useful, for example words like "Welcome" or "today", but it's still so much... DAY TWENTY-ONE I'm still having trouble not to confuse the verbs for "go to", "go out" and "go in". Studied vocabulary for over two hours, using the game Knuckles in Chinaland, which I've posted about before. DAY TWENTY-TWO Did a translation exercise that Hala sent me to better memorize the imperfect and future conjugations. Today's lesson was about telling the time (just a quick recap since we had done it in MSA) and then the weather. After the lesson I felt exhilarated about my Arabic, because I was able to say a lot of things. DAY TWENTY-THREE I have received a whole lot of vocabulary to practice before the next lesson, plus a written task describing the weather in Germany in all seasons, so I'm postponing the next Arabic lesson till tomorrow, giving the words some more time to sink in, and taking some Greek conversational practice today. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6468 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 29 of 39 05 November 2008 at 4:31pm | IP Logged |
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Regularly took my lessons except for yesterday, when I was attending the American house election night party. The main focus has been the habitual tense, with some new verbs and a dozen habitual words like "sometimes", "often" and "never". Today we studied modals however (double time actually, inofficially making up for yesterday) and I really feel they are giving me an edge in expressing myself.
On the vocabulary side, I've finally found my rhythm, too: I now use Mnemosyne only to practice German -> Egyptian and the other direction I practice using the game Knuckles in Chinaland. Mnemosyne is not a good choice when you have to learn words from one day to the next, while Knuckles in Chinaland is perfect for that purpose and I will spend several times 15-30 minutes a day on it. I'm counting on already knowing words passively by the time I encounter them in Mnemosyne and so far this strategy has been more successful. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6078 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 30 of 39 07 November 2008 at 2:36am | IP Logged |
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Seems to be going good, are you going to sign up for some more lessons after this period expires?
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6468 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 31 of 39 07 November 2008 at 3:09am | IP Logged |
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Yesterday we did participles and some dialogs for practice.
I will keep taking lessons after this boost period, but probably once or twice a week only. I can't sign up for another boost (the deal still exists, but only for new Myngle users) but I may make a deal with my teacher for a reduced rate on booking many lessons. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6078 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 32 of 39 07 November 2008 at 10:05am | IP Logged |
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Is that the teachers choice that the boost is for new customers or Myngle's?
Seems like you are covering a lot very quickly. How much was it per lesson again (in £ if you can). Thanks very much TEL 1 person has voted this message useful |
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