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The importance of English in China?

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ChristopherB
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 Message 1 of 9
29 September 2008 at 2:10am | IP Logged 
With the growth and emergence of China as a major world player, can anyone clue me in as to how important knowledge of English currently is in China, specifically the major cities? Can the average, well-educated Chinese communicate in English to the extent that the average, well-educated European can?
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SimonGray
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29 September 2008 at 9:41am | IP Logged 
Not at all - except in Hong Kong where English is very prevalent.

You are able to find people in Beijing and Shanghai that can speak enough English to have a conversation (i.e. they know more than "hello", "handsome", and "very cheap"), but it's a small minority who can speak it that well. Further south, even in the major cities, practically no one will be able to speak enough English to have a conversation.

In 4 months of traveling I only met 3 Chinese people who could speak English as well as a well-educated European (besides the ones who work in the youth hostels). And you meet a lot of people in 4 months.
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qklilx
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29 September 2008 at 6:39pm | IP Logged 
SimonGray thank you for saying that. I can't tell you how many people I know who make the claim that Chinese outside of Hong Kong can speak English---and they aren't Chinese telling me this. Despite when I tell them how many Chinese businessmen I've had as customers at work, they still believe that many Chinese people speak English. From memory, fewer than 5 of the many businesspeople I've had were able to communicate with me in English. The next best ability I witnessed was a man who learned the phrase "I don't know" as an all-purpose declination of service. To remove some bias from my post, I've also had many families, most of whom also could not use English.
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Alvinho
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07 October 2008 at 4:02pm | IP Logged 
I saw a report on TV before Olympic Games kicked off that there was a policeman who was responsible for the security of a monument near Beijing.....that guy can speak English and other languages properly and people alledgely say he's quite sympathetic.
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Northstar
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21 October 2008 at 9:06pm | IP Logged 
It depends where you go and what people you meet.
many Chinese can carry on daily conversation in large city, but can't go far.Because they don't have enough chance to speak and practice. Now many Chinese are learning English like crazy.
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solidsnake
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06 January 2009 at 11:13am | IP Logged 
People in China speak English in a style similar to Northstar's post above (Chinglish) but with an added incomprehensible accent. Chinese-accented English has to be the worst sounding English out there, second only to Korean-accented English. It grates the ears and sounds like someone speaking with a balled up sock in their mouth or something. I'm serious..its painful.
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Alkeides
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06 January 2009 at 12:05pm | IP Logged 
solidsnake wrote:
People in China speak English in a style similar to Northstar's post above (Chinglish) but with an added incomprehensible accent. Chinese-accented English has to be the worst sounding English out there, second only to Korean-accented English. It grates the ears and sounds like someone speaking with a balled up sock in their mouth or something. I'm serious..its painful.

Oh yes... it is mainly the hobbling horse rhythm. I don't think Korean-accented English is worse though, but it makes the speaker sound strangely masculine (for females).
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solidsnake
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06 January 2009 at 1:37pm | IP Logged 
Alkeides, do you play music at all? If you were to describe that "hobbling horse rhythm" in musical terms, how would it sound/be transcribed?

I agree about Korean girls sounding really tough when they speak English.


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