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| Maximus Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6740 days ago 417 posts - 427 votes  Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Thai | Message 1 of 14 26 October 2008 at 11:47am | IP Logged | ||
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[QUOTE=amphises] Anime and drama tend to be more dialogue-intensive than films; though of course it depends on the individual show. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a movie as dialogue-dense as the Death Note anime series for instance.
QUOTE] I like the term you used. Dialogue-intensive. I am trying to watch at least one film in Japanese every week as part of my study. By the way, I always try to get films without subtitles because they just annoy me. (Unless of course I watch a film in a language which I don't know). Since starting this routine, I often find myself going to this video store in my town which has quite a large section on World Cinema. When I see an interesting movie in Japanese, I purchase it or consider purchasing it in the near future. Again I want to keep in mind the idea of dialogue-intensiveness. The first film I watched, purchased in Japan, was SCARFACE but with Japanese audio track. I believe this is quite dialogue-intensive and I always like to note down how the Japanese speaking Tony Montana expresses his quotes and his general ruffian way of talking in Japanese. I was pleased to be able to have understood so much of this movie. After that, I watched BATTLE ROYAL again. The last time a saw it I had hardly begun with my Japanese studies and the time before I watched it with the Spanish audio track. I was curious as to see how much I had improved after that time in between the watching intervals. Like a measuring device of listening comprehension. However, though the story is fun, I don't believe this is very dialogue-intensive. The next film I watched was FREEZER. I don't think this either is very dialogue-intensive. It is mostly brutal killings. Maybe I should avoid these with less dialogue-intensiveness. For a second time, I wanted to watch PULSE or 回路 as it is called in the east. As I can remember it was quite dialogue intensive. However, I couldn't deactivate the Spanish subtitles (I purchased it in Spain) so I shut it off and watched Freezer again. Maybe I should watch it though because its dialogue seemed quite good when I watched it long ago when my Japanese was still at a very early stage. If someone could advise me regarding Japanese movies with good lialogues for my Japanese studies, I would be appreciative. Keeping in mind this idea of dialogue-intensiveness of course. Just some questions. I the store, I have seen a copy of Death Note, a movie version though it is a little expensive. Should I get that? Do you guys think it is a good resource for a learner of Japanese? The other available DVDs which I can remember were for example Yo Yo Cop Girl and then some other things like Azumi. How are those? Could you advise me on what to buy next? Also, there is a lot of Anime in that store in the next section. This is really not my world but I have my mind open. If anyone could recommend any Anime super-awesome for my studies I would appreciate it. Thanks for reading Luke 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| FrancescoP Octoglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5941 days ago 169 posts - 258 votes Speaks: Italian*, French, English, German, Latin, Ancient Greek, Russian, Norwegian Studies: Georgian, Japanese, Croatian, Greek | Message 2 of 14 26 October 2008 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you haven't seen "NHK ni youkoso" yet, do give it a try. It's packed full with realistic (though mostly weird) dialogue and cultural innuendos worth picking up. You'll find a more than thorough summary on Wikipedia. That could be one. If you're into well-made sentimental comedies, try "Honey and Clover". More on the teenager side but the language they speak is worthwile study material and less stereotyped than in most anime. Neither I am an anime guy, really, so there could be better suggestions coming up, but some of the more recent productions are so damn brilliant. Edited by FrancescoP on 26 October 2008 at 3:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Aquedita Triglot Senior Member Poland myspace.com/aqueda_v Joined 6005 days ago 154 posts - 164 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese Studies: Mandarin | Message 3 of 14 26 October 2008 at 6:02pm | IP Logged | ||
Well... To tell the truth I'm much of a movie fan myself and one of my favorites of all time would have to be "Dolls" by Takeshi Kitano, but I'd say clear of this one if it's only about language study, hardly any dialogs at all :P None the less - a beautiful movie. If it's about the titles you mentioned I guess Death Note would be the best pick both because of the plot and language. When it comes to anime I strongly recommend "Neon Genesis Evangelion" (Shin seiki Evangelion), for lots of reasons. It is science ficiton, so there is some wierd vocabulary but all in all - a good piece of cinema. And you know... the fact that a film is animated doesn't mean it is less of a work of art or that it's only a cartoon for kids. Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW5vuvwvIZg&feature=related Good luck with your studies. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Maximus Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6740 days ago 417 posts - 427 votes Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Thai | Message 4 of 14 26 October 2008 at 6:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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Wow, thanks for your rapid responses. I may purchase Death Note, though it is 20 Pounds which is super expensive for a DVD. That figure would only look worse in Dollars or Euros. Nevertheless, my Janese DVD collection is scarce and I really need more. Maybe I will purchase Death Note this week or maybe next week.
I am reluctant to spend money too soon as I really want to get a copy of Oldboy, a Korean film, but I desperately want to copy with Japanese audio track as I really am obsessed with than movie. I believe it to be dialogue-intensive as well as pure genious with an incredible plot. It will be quite expensive from the Japanese Amazon due to shipping fees, but probably worth it as I will undoubtably watch this movie many times should I manage to get a copy with Japanese soundtrack. I don't know if downloading such a specific demand (with Japanese soundtrack) would be even possible. To be honest, I don't really know much about today's P2P networks. I am not the most expert in the field of computers. Does anyone use anything good for Japanese movies/ Anime/ Media? Certainly the higest on my list is Oldboy with Japanese soundtrack, after that Death Note, though these are the two most expensive. Also, because I don't want to speak like my Japanese teachers, who are all very feminine Japanese ladies, I am also searching for movies which are male dominated. Scarface with Japanese audio track was perfect for this. I really want to develop a manly speach pattern and understand better spoken male Japanese as many say that male voices are more difficult to understand fully. People say that I should watch Yakuza movies, though they are probably to difficult to understand for me at this moment owed to the gangster specific language that the characters use. I do have interest in Gangster movies and would love to watch some, but maybe they are not the place to start for a Japanese language learner just getting into Japanese cinema. Similarly, what about warrior themed movies? Maybe they too are a little inapropriate for learning materials at this stage too. Again owed to the time specific vocabulary. Do you guys think it would be safe to get these types of movies? Or would it be better to watch regular movies? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6025 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds | Message 5 of 14 26 October 2008 at 10:20pm | IP Logged | ||
Tokyo Toshokan is always an option, you know... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6139 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes | Message 6 of 14 26 October 2008 at 11:50pm | IP Logged | ||
Warrior-themed movies (samurai movies or even Western historical/fantasy movies) tend to use grammar that might be considered literary. They might also use words like そなた/お主/友 and have a few で御座る endings, words ending in -じる (信じる、存じる) might also have their original ずる endings. Use of outright Classical Japanese (文語) is rare though. I guess you could equate it to watching an equivalent movie in English, like the Lord of the Rings series for instance. I haven't seen LoTR in Japanese but 300 is another example. One thing to note if you watch Greek/Roman-themed movies in Japanese, they use the original language as a basis of katakanization. So it's レオニダス for Leonidas and カイサル for Caesar. If you are interested in the movie, I see no reason why you shouldn't watch it. Some of the vocabulary as I mentioned might be too specific, but the grammar structures and most of the basic vocabulary are common to the whole language. The Death Note anime series uses standard language with very little slang. The main characters are also mostly young males, so I don't think you'll find speaking like them too inappropriate. One reason I say the series is dialogue intensive is that the main characters formulate plans and think aloud quite a bit. You won't sound dumb learning to speak like them. On the other hand, I don't think Evangelion is a good model for learning to speak. For sure, there are a ton of technical words which might aid your kanji study, but it's difficult to learn that from audio, the manga would aid you better on that aspect; but, the actual dialogue between the characters is minimal. Some other anime series I think are fairly dialogue-dense include: Haibane Renmei, Cowboy Bebop, Jigoku Shoujo, Lucky Star. Although out of these, I think Lucky Star's dialogues are the most realistic. Some people find the series confusing because of its pop culture references, but the girls' discussions are what I actually talk about with my friends in school, not semi-romantic drivel in most school comedies. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6370 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 14 27 October 2008 at 10:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just watched the first part of Death Note (the movie, not the anime series). As far as I know, there are three parts. Maybe that's why it is expensive. I liked it a lot. Edited by newyorkeric on 27 October 2008 at 10:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Maximus Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6740 days ago 417 posts - 427 votes Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Thai | Message 8 of 14 28 October 2008 at 6:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Amphises,
According to your profile you live relatively close to me. Just out of curiosity, from where do you get all your DVDs of non-japanese origin but with Japanese Audio track? Did you get them in Japan? Or can you buy them in your current location? Thanks for the explanation on warrior themed movies. Maybe I will try to purchase some. As long as it is understable to me, I have interest in warrior speach. Or in other words, 拙者は武士の話し方が好きで御座る！ Thanks Luke 1 person has voted this message useful |
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