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| LorenzoGuapo Triglot Groupie United States Joined 6444 days ago 79 posts - 94 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: French | Message 1 of 7 09 May 2009 at 5:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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Many people on this forum believe that people of some languages are more arrogant than others. I will talk about the 4 languages that I am most acquainted with. English is my native language and I don't feel American's act arrogant to foreigners, however some may think otherwise. Also others feel people from the UK have an arrogant accent. I would disagree on that one also, I recently had a guy from England at one of my parties 3 weeks ago and no one though he was arrogant most people just thought he talked cool.
As for Spanish many say that the Argentines are/speak arrogant. Having lived there I feel its not the case just because they refer to the language as Castillian doesn't make them arrogant.The only reason I choose not to speak like an Argentine in the US is to make communication easier therfore I would not use the voseo and other Argentine characteristics. As with Portuguese I am not that sure, but I know people from Brasil, Portugal, and Angola and no one seems more arrogant than the other. Lastly with French I know people from French speaking Europe, Quebec, and Africa and they happen to be some of the coolest people I know. In fact 2 weeks ago there was an American girl practicing French with them and they were intrigued that she could speak French. So I don't know what everyone else thinks but overall I don't see the arrogant factor. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| eoinda Tetraglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 5948 days ago 101 posts - 113 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, Spanish, Mandarin Studies: French | Message 2 of 7 09 May 2009 at 10:52am | IP Logged | |||||
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Sure people have prejudices even on this forum but I have to say that people who actually study languages and care
about other peoples cultures tend to have less prejudices. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| qklilx Moderator United States Joined 6186 days ago 459 posts - 477 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 7 10 May 2009 at 3:03am | IP Logged | |||||
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I think you can find a degree of arrogance in some Asian countries. Japanese frequently tell me how hard their language is and how smart I must be for having that very conversation with them in it. When my friends found out I'd start studying Korean on a full-time basis they looked at me with the most expressionless puppy-eyed face and said "What about Japanese?"
I am frequently engaged in the following three conversations with Chinese people from mainland China, and to be honest there isn't much variance from person to person, even if the conversation is in Korean. It's almost like they learn these phrases in class. Chinese: Have you ever had Chinese food? Me: Yes. Chinese: Have you ever been to China? Me: No. Chinese: Then you've never had Chinese food. Me: ... well... I live in Hawaii, and have eaten food cooked by people who cater 90% to Chinese people and can barely have a conversation in English. Chinese: You must be in China to eat Chinese food. Chinese: Do you like Korean food? Me: Yes. Chinese: Then if you were to go to China I'm sure you would find Chinese food very delicious. Chinese: Why don't you learn Chinese? Me: Maybe in the future. Chinese: You should learn it now. Because of the Olympics, China's economy is growing very fast, and if you know Chinese, then you can get a job very easily. I can't say that I've witnessed arrogance of any sort from Koreans, and I haven't interacted with enough of other Asian races to make an opinion, although so far Mongolians seem to be shockingly nice. Even nicer than the famed Japanese and falsely stereotyped Koreans. Also I agree with eoinda. I've found even myself to be much more cultured now that I've been to both Japan and Korea and interacted with their people at various social rankings in their own languages. It's quite the experience. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Nadien Triglot Newbie Indonesia Joined 5678 days ago 23 posts - 24 votes Speaks: Indonesian*, French, English Studies: Italian | Message 4 of 7 10 May 2009 at 3:58am | IP Logged | |||||
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learning many languages make me also feel like part of the people, knowing their culture, habits, daily activities, I think it makes me appreciate and understand more different characteristics and customs..
@qklilx : what about south east asian? well, i'm from Indonesia which is one of the south east asian country. Do we arrogant? Just want to know some opinion... thanks 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Raчraч Ŋuɲa Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 5818 days ago 154 posts - 233 votes Speaks: Bikol languages*, Tagalog, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, Russian, Japanese | Message 5 of 7 10 May 2009 at 9:37am | IP Logged | |||||
In every language, there are speakers who are arrogant. Also that would depend on how you define arrogance. It could be their way of expressing "pride" and a cultural thing.
Me too. I don't pay particular attention to any arrogance, even if I detect something. Also, I have a healthy self-worth so I wouldn't be affected at all. Lastly, I've got friends who are French and Argentinians who are not arrogant at all. Edited by Raчraч Ŋuɲa on 10 May 2009 at 9:38am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5838 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 6 of 7 12 May 2009 at 11:53am | IP Logged | |||||
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Actually native English speakers deserve a lot of credit for being decent to foreigners about making grammatical and other mistakes.
This goes for both Americans and British people. Many other European nations would definitely not be as forgiving with somebody in a professional environment. I am thinking about Germany, France, Italy, Sweden.. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| qklilx Moderator United States Joined 6186 days ago 459 posts - 477 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 7 13 May 2009 at 2:43am | IP Logged | |||||
Never met an Indonesian, actually. But I can say that I haven't met any arrogant Filipinos unless you're talking to them in a Filipino language, then they'll make fun of you until you sound at least close to native. The few Vietnamese people I've met seem to be quite polite. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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