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| koba Heptaglot Senior Member AustriaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5867 days ago 118 posts - 201 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Hungarian, French | Message 89 of 143 26 October 2010 at 4:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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So far, from the languages I've studied, Hungarian is by far the most logical. I don't believe when people keep saying it's a difficult language, while actually everything can be figured out without much struggle in this language. The only thing is that you will need some time to get your mind around the vowel harmony, which is a key factor to master the language.
Apart from that, he alphabet is totally logical, the plural forms, the verbal conjugations and the postpositions/suffixes are to a large extent regular. The vocabulary can also be enlarged with ease. About the difficulty? Well, The words are totally alien and hungarians can speak quite fast, but here it has nothing to do with logic but rather simply being familiar with it. Edited by koba on 26 October 2010 at 6:22pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Tigro Triglot Newbie Germany Joined 4943 days ago 1 posts - 3 votes Speaks: German*, Esperanto, English Studies: Italian, Russian | Message 90 of 143 17 May 2011 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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What is logic? Scientifically spoken there is only one logic, as far as I know; the mathematical logic. From this perspective human languages are not logical at all. They would be very inflexible and hence impractical, if they were. I would rather ask: to which degree language use follows the principle of analogy. In other words, the question is: if there are rules, does they apply to all lingusitic phenomena of the same kind? In this regard Esperanto comes apparently very close to the ideal.
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| Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 5113 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 91 of 143 17 May 2011 at 4:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I reckon Arabic is only logical because they turn all their exceptions into rules. It's definitely not more logical than
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| tritone Senior Member United States reflectionsinpo Joined 6119 days ago 246 posts - 385 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese, French | Message 92 of 143 17 May 2011 at 7:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
Anglish FTW!! Spread the word! I've now seen sundry folk throughout the internet benote/brook the word "outlandish". If we slip in more of these words little by little, they'll start to sound more 'everyday'. Maybe even English spelling will become more regular/logical without so many outlandish words like "foreign". By the way, I say "you all". Edited by tritone on 17 May 2011 at 7:22pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| PaulLambeth Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5372 days ago 244 posts - 315 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Icelandic, Hindi, Irish | Message 93 of 143 28 October 2011 at 1:00am | IP Logged | |||||
There's a third one I'd like to add to this: yous. It's used a lot in Ireland, and some of Britain too. I like to promote a distinctive plural form of you; it can be ambiguous, especially when 'you' is also commonly used for 'one' as in 'if one goes out'. Outlandish is a lovely word to hear. Útlendingur (literally, outlander) is the word for foreigner in Icelandic. Lots of cognates like that have fallen out of use. I'd like to add Swahili to the list of logical languages. From what little I studied of it, it had useful gender assignment and a logical match with the adjective. Finnish is also up there. Case markings in general help me piece together sentences, so I prefer those for logic ahead of languages which don't mark for case, and rely on a very strict word order. Additionally, having verbs (and other groups) identifiable in a sentence without knowing what they mean is a blessing. English has lost that; Icelandic and, well, most other languages I've looked at have maintained it. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| strikingstar Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5172 days ago 292 posts - 444 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*, Cantonese, Swahili Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written) | Message 94 of 143 28 October 2011 at 3:11am | IP Logged | |||||
Are you referring to the noun classes? As in: Vitabu vyangu hivyo vizuri viwili nimevyosoma. (Those two good books which I have read.) It is very logical. I agree. Once you know the rules, everything makes sense and you'll always have an easy time navigating the language. But noun classes are hardly unique to Swahili, it's a staple of Bantu languages. Edited by strikingstar on 28 October 2011 at 3:14pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Remster Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4804 days ago 120 posts - 134 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: German, French | Message 95 of 143 28 October 2011 at 12:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think languages that rely on case systems are more logical.
That doesn't mean they're easier, but they have less exceptions and are more bound by the roles of their respective cases. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5055 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 96 of 143 28 October 2011 at 1:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
Really??? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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