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| drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4469 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes  Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish | Message 9 of 16 20 March 2014 at 4:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Que is not a typo. It is a stylistic choice, he clearly makes use of a lot of latinisms and obsolete Italian words. That's why you have que and che, he's no ordinary writer and everything is carefully chosen.
I remember in my childhood reading books that still kept that variation, transcripts of translations dated to the 19th century. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| flabbergasted Triglot Groupie Latvia Joined 6357 days ago 75 posts - 97 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Latvian Studies: Arabic (classical), French, German, Italian, Spanish, Mandarin, Serbo-Croatian, Catalan, Persian | Message 10 of 16 20 March 2014 at 5:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
Here it is: "Misuro me stesso: minuscolo, di lunghe gambe veloci al balzo, alla corsa, tacite; orecchiuto a trascegliere fruscii di morte e sciacquii di strazio e ronzii di meditata piaga; occhi plurimi, attorno all'acuzie del muso, autonomi a scrutare ombre, fantasmi, denti, finzioni di unghie, l'aprirsi cauto di un tacito albero, travestita mascella di esatte mura" 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| flabbergasted Triglot Groupie Latvia Joined 6357 days ago 75 posts - 97 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Latvian Studies: Arabic (classical), French, German, Italian, Spanish, Mandarin, Serbo-Croatian, Catalan, Persian | Message 11 of 16 20 March 2014 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
No, it gets even worse. Edited by flabbergasted on 20 March 2014 at 5:55pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 16 21 March 2014 at 12:18am | IP Logged | |||||
Why does such a sane and levelheaded person suddenly decide to flay living snakes? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| flabbergasted Triglot Groupie Latvia Joined 6357 days ago 75 posts - 97 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Latvian Studies: Arabic (classical), French, German, Italian, Spanish, Mandarin, Serbo-Croatian, Catalan, Persian | Message 13 of 16 21 March 2014 at 5:50am | IP Logged | |||||
The novel is set in hell. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4640 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 14 of 16 21 March 2014 at 11:27am | IP Logged | |||||
I had never heard about Giorgio Manganelli to be honest, so I looked him up in Wikipedia. Reading about him there I understand better why this text seems so obscure. Here is a short passage:
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| drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4469 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish | Message 15 of 16 22 March 2014 at 7:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
All right, so he's describing his body - well the perception of it. My guess is the following: - the slimy skin is hold together with his body by a hand (a figure of speech, not a real hand) - raggelare, livida, viscida, seem to describe the physical/emotional state of his skin. With cold/fear extremities become blue (livida), you have shivers (raggelare) and you can even have sweat (viscida). So he's either providing an emotional response or a physical response (is he naked in hell?). - i think it's safe to say that the prensili chele are his limbs, most probably the hands That's a hypothetical interpretation of the description, and I'm sorry I can't help more. I think it's wrong to look for a concrete correspondence to his rhetorical devices. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| flabbergasted Triglot Groupie Latvia Joined 6357 days ago 75 posts - 97 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Latvian Studies: Arabic (classical), French, German, Italian, Spanish, Mandarin, Serbo-Croatian, Catalan, Persian | Message 16 of 16 22 March 2014 at 8:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks a lot. It's a bit clearer now.
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