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| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4083 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes  Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 1 of 11 22 March 2014 at 5:25pm | IP Logged |
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Es liegt ein schmutziger Teppich.
Why do we have "dirtier" here? Dirtier than what? I know, I'm trying to map it to English, which doesnt work. I'm just trying to get the connotation here. Edited by Gemuse on 22 March 2014 at 5:26pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 2 of 11 22 March 2014 at 5:54pm | IP Logged |
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It's not the comparative, it's the masculine nominative (mixed declination):
ein schmutziger Teppich = a dirty carpet eine schmutzige Wand = a dirty wall ein schmutziges Fenster = a dirty window 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4083 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 3 of 11 22 March 2014 at 10:40pm | IP Logged |
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Aaaaw man. What a basic mistake.
Live and learn Gemuse, live and learn. Thanks Josquin! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4950 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 4 of 11 23 March 2014 at 5:26am | IP Logged |
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Don't worry, I made that same mistake too.
And still sometimes do, when talking fast (Tja, das ist doch eine komplizierte Sache... oder meine ich, kompliziertere??) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4083 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 5 of 11 19 April 2014 at 6:44pm | IP Logged |
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I encountered the phrase
schöneres Wetter I understand this is comparative+adjective declination leading to schön -> schöner -> schöneres. But, we have sentences like Wofür geben Sie mehr Geld aus? Why dont we have an adjective declination here for "mehr" (mehres Geld)? Edited by Gemuse on 19 April 2014 at 6:46pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5767 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 6 of 11 19 April 2014 at 8:19pm | IP Logged |
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Because of reasons.
It's not a normal adjective, but used for (comparing and) measuring amounts. According to Duden it's called "Indefinitpronomen und unbestimmtes Zahlwort" ... indefinite pronoun and quantifier ...? But this is one of the words where knowing why it's treated differently doesn't keep you from having to memorize and doing exercises. Of course, when you can identify things like quantifiers in your own language and English and know how they are treated the same or differently from other word classes, then such an explanation might make things a bit easier, because then you can compare the way these words are treated in different languages. But you still have to do the exercises and accept the target language grammar the way it is. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4083 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 7 of 11 19 April 2014 at 9:18pm | IP Logged |
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Do besser, and lieber also fall into the same exception class as mehr (no adjective
endings? But größer, älter, jünger are treated like normal adjectives (eg älteres Buch)? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5767 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 8 of 11 19 April 2014 at 10:28pm | IP Logged |
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Except for lieber, which is an adverb, all those are adjectives. I think. Too lazy to check.
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