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German Vocab: der Hortbereich (Kita)

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schoenewaelder
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24 April 2014 at 5:37pm | IP Logged 
Comments in the press today about the lack of place in berlin Kitas, particularly in the
"Hortbereich" .

Leo says a Hort can be an (all-day) nursery. Google not helpful

Can anyone explain what exactly "Hortbereich" corresponds to in English.

THanks.

Edited by schoenewaelder on 24 April 2014 at 6:14pm

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24 April 2014 at 7:51pm | IP Logged 
Do you mean a Schulhort? That's the place where pupils of the primary school can stay after lessons.

PS. Der Hort is a nice example of word recycling. Originally it meant "treasure" (Der Hort der Nibelungen), then we forget this word to be reintroduced into our language with the meanung "refuge" (Die Schweiz ist ein Hort des Reichtums), a high browed word, which is now balalised to "after-school care".

Edited by Cabaire on 24 April 2014 at 8:13pm

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24 April 2014 at 11:00pm | IP Logged 
<noun> + -bereich usually means "sector of <noun>" (ie. <noun> is a branch of something
bigger)

A KiTa (Kindertagesstätte) could be either "Kinderkrippe", "Kindergarten" or "Hort"
(well, it could also be a combination thereof if we speak about the physical place).

It would help to see the original article, but as far as I can see it, "Hortbereich"
isn't a concept of its own, it just links the "Hort" to the bigger entity.

By the way, in another context, this could mean a physical sector. If you have a
building containing a "Hort" and a "Kindergarten", then "Hortbereich" could refer to
the
physical space of the "Hort". But this interpretation doesn't seem very likely here.

Edited by daegga on 25 April 2014 at 12:07am

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24 April 2014 at 11:32pm | IP Logged 
daegga wrote:
A KiTa (Kindertagesstätte) could be either "Kindergrippe", "Kindergarten" or "Hort"

"Kindergrippe" would be children's flu. What you mean is a "Kinderkrippe".
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25 April 2014 at 12:08am | IP Logged 
Josquin wrote:
daegga wrote:
A KiTa (Kindertagesstätte) could be either
"Kindergrippe", "Kindergarten" or "Hort"

"Kindergrippe" would be children's flu. What you mean is a "Kinderkrippe".


ähäm...yes, fixed it
doesn't help that both words are pronounced the same in Austrian German
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25 April 2014 at 12:32am | IP Logged 
To summarize, it means that while there are generally more applicants than vacancies when it comes to day care in Berlin, it's especially a problem when it comes to Hort places, meaning daycare for (usually primary) school children after school (which still is only until noon in many schools).

About the current usage of the word Bereich
(While the word can mean 'sector', it is also used to mean 'the general vicinity of' or 'when it comes to')

Edited by Bao on 25 April 2014 at 12:36am



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