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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 9 of 19 01 September 2014 at 6:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yeah, somehow radio is considered a more "serious" resource and recommended much more often than watching cheesy TV shows or cartoons.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 10 of 19 01 September 2014 at 6:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 11 of 19 01 September 2014 at 6:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I sometimes watch trashy Romanian showbizz things for exactly that reason... if I'm going
to watch trash, then at least in Romanian... I find radio particularly useful at a higher level OR if you have transcripts. For that reason I recommend Echo Moskvy. I don't understand everything they say, but give me the transcript to fill in the blanks I get when they talk and it's fine. (And the blanks are not always words I don't understand). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| eyðimörk Triglot Senior Member France goo.gl/aT4FY7 Joined 4098 days ago 490 posts - 1158 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French Studies: Breton, Italian | Message 12 of 19 01 September 2014 at 7:00pm | IP Logged | |||||
I didn't mean to somehow imply that your opinion was less worth on account of being (as you initially stated) an opinion. You clearly have a reason for that opinion, and now I know what that reason is, so thank you.
I can certainly see why radio is not the most beneficial listening resource for a beginner, but I don't quite see how we jump from "there are other sources that help you reach a particular goal sooner" to "not recommended until you're at an advanced level". That's quite the jump in my eyes, which is why I asked about it. Of course native materials are not graded the way teaching materials are, but I feel as if though you're finding a lot more faults with radio than is truly necessary by comparing a beginner (surely not the only non-advanced level?) listening to native materials on bad reception, having done zero groundwork, to a beginner going out of his or her way to find and listen to graded learning materials for beginners and maybe paying extra for transcripts. Why is the second learner so much smarter than the first, and why can't someone do both? That's certainly not how I've ever used the radio. Radio's broad range of speakers and topics is one of its fortes, in my opinion. I can happily peruse the programmes, choosing specifically to listen to the topics that I'm most likely to understand. If I do poorly with interviews, I can skip interview programmes. If I have trouble understanding the older generation, I can pick programmes presented by younger people. And because I'm a learner, I download shows so that I can listen with ear buds, and rewind or re-listen if I feel like it. The radio is no different from podcasts, that way (and by podcasts I mean native material podcasts, not subscription-based online learning podcasts), except that they're well-organised and have guaranteed good quality audio and better-than-average to excellent speakers. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| eyðimörk Triglot Senior Member France goo.gl/aT4FY7 Joined 4098 days ago 490 posts - 1158 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French Studies: Breton, Italian | Message 13 of 19 01 September 2014 at 7:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
Eh. I happily listen to two rather silly guys presenting heavy metal in Breton and making a mess of English band-names while I go running. :) I also listen to hour long discussions about cultural heritage while gardening, courtesy of France Culture, no doubt stuffy and serious in many people's eyes/ears (and much more advanced listening than heavy metal chitchat). There's definitely a range to that perceived "seriousness". ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5765 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 14 of 19 01 September 2014 at 8:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The podcasts from Radio France are encoded at 128kbps (except for le journal en français facile, which is encoded at 64kbps, but that works because they speak slowly and clearly), and I think that for speech, any higher encoding is probably placebo. If you want that, buy audiobooks on CD, I guess.
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| Tyrion101 Senior Member United States Joined 3912 days ago 153 posts - 174 votes Speaks: French | Message 15 of 19 01 September 2014 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes to the person who said that my primary listening was via radio. I've noticed that the streaming quality occasionally is lacking. Even on air radio can occasionally not be all that great, especially if the person talking over a phone has a bad connection. I had not considered radio broadcast podcast before, thank you for the idea. Are the radio France ones available on iTunes?
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| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5765 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 16 of 19 01 September 2014 at 11:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yup, there's were I got mine from. I really prefer podcasts, because of the quality, because I can take them with me, pause at will, repeat them when my attention drifts or something is particularly intetesting, and because I like to think that it's the best content of a program that is put on the podcast. :D
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