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Donaldshimoda Diglot Groupie Italy Joined 4089 days ago 47 posts - 72 votes Speaks: Italian*, English Studies: German, Russian
| Message 17 of 20 16 September 2014 at 8:42pm | IP Logged |
luhmann wrote:
Conversation is much easier that reading. Conversation uses simpler
constructions and a much smaller lexicon. For me the trade off would be more like, to be
able to read in one, vs fluent conversation in four. |
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I would say quite the opposite...I find reading,for many reasons LOTS easier than
speaking ...the trade off here is to be able to read in four vs fluent in one
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| robarb Nonaglot Senior Member United States languagenpluson Joined 5058 days ago 361 posts - 921 votes Speaks: Portuguese, English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, French Studies: Mandarin, Danish, Russian, Norwegian, Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Greek, Latin, Nepali, Modern Hebrew
| Message 18 of 20 16 September 2014 at 8:47pm | IP Logged |
Donaldshimoda wrote:
luhmann wrote:
Conversation is much easier that reading. Conversation uses simpler
constructions and a much smaller lexicon. For me the trade off would be more like, to be
able to read in one, vs fluent conversation in four. |
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I would say quite the opposite...I find reading,for many reasons LOTS easier than
speaking ...the trade off here is to be able to read in four vs fluent in one |
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Haha, this seems to depend massively on the learner's style and talents. But at least we can say that reaching a
given level of speaking is easier if you don't also have to read well. And reaching a given level of reading is easier if
you don't also have to speak well.
Probably not that much easier though, as balanced study of multiple language skills is a good way to progress.
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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5008 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 19 of 20 16 September 2014 at 8:55pm | IP Logged |
Yes, I said Mandarin might be a good gateway to other asian languages, even though I know less then little about it. But do the Chinese learn other asian languages often? I suppose natives of various asian languages are learning Mandarin or Japanese apart from English but would Mandarin be such a great bridge to Vietnamese, Thai or Korean?
But still, it wouldn't probably help you with Arabic much.
Sure we've got a bias. But there is nothing wrong about that. It is nowadays very popular to admire the asian or indian cultures so much that we sometimes forget that Europe (+ Americas) is a treasure grove.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 20 of 20 16 September 2014 at 10:44pm | IP Logged |
Chinese helps you with Japanese and Korean to an extent because of the huge amount of
loans in those languages from Chinese. I have noticed several similarities between Korean
and Mandarin.
As for the question, I could never content myself with only reading - in any language
that I can read, I can also talk, and usually talk pretty well.
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