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Gallo1801
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 Message 1 of 5
12 December 2014 at 5:43am | IP Logged 
So I have an Alliance Française and a Goethe Institut in my current city. I have been
learning French for a while, and they said after an informal interview with a Senegalese
professor I should apply for a B2 class (thanks Assimil!) Haven't started German, but
would like to be proficient by the Polyglot conference in October.

Anyone have experience/opinion on classes at these organizations and their classes?
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patrickwilken
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12 December 2014 at 9:12am | IP Logged 
I did the Goethe Institute A1-A2-B1 courses in Berlin a few years ago. I found the A1 class great, A2 OK, and B1 really annoying. This came down in large part to the tutors we had - Goethe has a policy of changing them after each class. I think most (all?) of my class found the courses too grammar heavy in the later stages.

So I personally think they were a waste of money. I would think you'd be better off just accessing native materials if you are in the B2 stage now, plus perhaps hiring an online tutor.
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turorudi
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16 March 2015 at 9:34am | IP Logged 
I studied at both in Manila. I loved Goethe more because the lessons were more engaging,
although that could be because of the instructor and not because of the school itself. In
AF, I only finished 2 modules because I felt that I was not getting value for my money.
Even after 2 modules, I couldn't string words together to form very basic sentences. In
class, we focused more on learning (ie, memorizing) the rules rather than using them.
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Cavesa
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16 March 2015 at 4:23pm | IP Logged 
Years ago, I spent two semesters at Institut Francais (it is Alliance, just the name
"Institut" is a tradition since 1920 or so) and I was quite dissappointed. In those
times, I knew far too little about self teaching efficiently and internet was very
different from the sea of resources we can use now.

My experience with AF:
-their classes are among the best quality classes. That sounds great but sometimes, it
just means the others are even worse. However, many language schools are of similar
quality for 3/4 or 2/3 of the price.
-you can get a great teacher or a horrible one as well. A native teacher isn't
automatically a good one. And, despite being such a large institution with many
classes being held, it is not that simple to switch classes because of not liking the
teacher.
-Just like in any other classes, you won't get much advice on further practice. If you
are unlucky enough to have lazy classmates, there won't be any homework and the pace
will be turtlelike.
+there are classes of all the levels up to C1 usually, which is quite rare
+AFs tend to have a good library and its use tends to be free for the students

I have as well noticed that not only the prices keep rising (in ten years, they went
up by 40% !), there were even some changes to the level structure so now you need to
pay for more semesters to get to the same level.

Truth be told, if you've got the money and need guidance, get a private tutor. If not,
keep self studying.
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turorudi
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17 March 2015 at 1:58am | IP Logged 
In my country, AF only offers until B2. I suppose no one really goes for the C levels
anymore.


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