Tyrion101 Senior Member United States Joined 3912 days ago 153 posts - 174 votes Speaks: French
| Message 1 of 5 15 January 2016 at 11:44pm | IP Logged |
I've noticed that when I am tired, sometimes French will look like gibberish, however if I look at the same text a few hours later after I've slept I can understand it perfectly again, is this normal? Is it always going to be the case that when I am tired I am just going to have to not look at or listen to French?
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dhoeffer Pentaglot Newbie Netherlands enoent.org Joined 3472 days ago 14 posts - 23 votes Speaks: Italian, German*, English, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 2 of 5 16 January 2016 at 8:58am | IP Logged |
It looks like gibberish because it still requires you a cognitive effort to understand
the text, and you're too tired to make it. As you get better, it will require less effort
to understand French texts in general, and being tired won't have the same effect (or it
will be less pronounced, at least).
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 3 of 5 16 January 2016 at 11:36pm | IP Logged |
When I'm tired enough it can happen in L1 too...
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Speakeasy Senior Member Canada Joined 4051 days ago 507 posts - 1098 votes Studies: German
| Message 4 of 5 16 January 2016 at 11:38pm | IP Logged |
I support dhoeffer's and Serpent's comments. However, there is similar phenomenon -- that is, of momentary reduced mental capacity -- that I have experienced, that has the opposite effect...
When I first began living and working in the Québec hinterland, at a time when I was only beginning to speak French, I found that at the beginning of an "evening out" with my new French-speaking friends, my French was pitiful, even to my ears. Nonetheless, as the evening wore on and as I consumed increasing amounts of alcoholic beverages, to my astonishment, I spoke French with surprising fluency, all this with a percent French accent ... uh, to my ears. In fact, when I think about, an "evening out" with my English-speaking friends would often have a similar effect on my capacity for emitting well-articulated statements of astoundingly profound insight.
Strangely, the next morning, my "base level" of a rudimentary knowledge of French -- or English -- seemed to have returned!
Edited by Speakeasy on 16 January 2016 at 11:39pm
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 5 of 5 17 January 2016 at 10:19pm | IP Logged |
Yeah, alcohol can do wonders for your confidence ;D Obviously it's not a good permanent solution and even occasional use is not for everyone, ymmv etc.
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