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| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6449 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes  Studies: German | Message 9 of 13 19 February 2016 at 8:39pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes, no immersion necessary, how long depends on a number of factors. Keep listening.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 10 of 13 20 February 2016 at 1:45am | IP Logged | |||||
You misunderstood me ;) I mostly meant that only specialized or colloquial words might go past you in L1, to the point that you may be unable to repeat or write down the word. Outside these areas, you won't come across any unfamiliar words, though the nuances may very between the speakers, like with "chore". (also, wouldn't the collocations be different? "doing one's chores" vs "that's a chore" - surely the latter is not a description of something as being part of your routine?) Edited by Serpent on 20 February 2016 at 1:46am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7207 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 11 of 13 20 February 2016 at 10:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
Words have infinite possibility. Do they mean what the speaker or writer meant? Do they mean what the reader or listener understood? Both? Do they have a meaning that transcends the speaker and listener? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Speakeasy Senior Member Canada Joined 4054 days ago 507 posts - 1098 votes Studies: German | Message 12 of 13 21 February 2016 at 12:34am | IP Logged | |||||
I appreciate your point of view. However, there are definite limits beyond which no reasonable person would, or should, venture. For example, if I see a CAT cross the road, does my calling it a COW fall with your notion of "infinite possibility"? I certainly hope not! Some years ago, I had the occasion (too often) to discuss "word choice" and "meaning" with a fellow employee. She maintained that she had the "right" to ascribe any meaning she chose to words. Quite frankly, her "own definitions" were often so beyond reason as to cause not only considerable confusion but, at times, also heated reactions from other staff members. I tried, unsuccessfully, to encourage her to stick to the "dictionary definitions" of words as these are known to represent the most common uses. She invariably replied that such definitions were "too constraining" and she continued with her practice of viewing words as having "infinite possibilities" which she was free to ascribe. Over time, she lost a lot of credibility and many people simply ceased reading her distorted little memoranda. It's shame really, she was a very nice, well-intentioned person. Edited by Speakeasy on 21 February 2016 at 12:35am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7207 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 13 of 13 21 February 2016 at 11:37am | IP Logged | |||||
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Just as there are defined limits to what constitutes an "integer", they are nonetheless part of an infinite set.
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