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FallingStar Groupie Argentina Joined 6551 days ago 82 posts - 85 votes Speaks: Spanish* Studies: Finnish, English
| Message 1 of 33 23 December 2006 at 3:14pm | IP Logged |
Hello people!! I've started learning Finnish few days ago...I love Finnish culture,Finnish people and Finland ^^ and I've been longing for learning finnish for almost two years
Please guys,cheer me up...tell me it isn't as difficult as it seems =(
chau!
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| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7014 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 33 23 December 2006 at 7:27pm | IP Logged |
Nothing's difficult if you set your mind to it!
By the way, how come you chose Finnish? After all, it's a bit far from Argentina, isn't it? ;-)
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 3 of 33 24 December 2006 at 12:10pm | IP Logged |
Great!!!
Well in my opinion Finnish is much easier than eg German ;) The grammar is a lot more logical for example. Although somewhere deep in my mind I understand that it's because I put more effort into my Finnish studies... But facts are facts: after studying German at school for almost four years and Finnish on my own for 1.5 years I speak the latter one much better than the former one.
How are you learning Finnish? On your own, I guess, just as I do? Here are some links that you might find useful:
http://www.cc.oulu.fi/~mkarjala/soh2/ - grammar (in Finnish), a lot of excercises
http://www.edu.fi/oppimateriaalit/ymmarrasuomea/ - texts for listening comprehension
http://donnerwetter.kielikeskus.helsinki.fi/FinnishForForeig ners/parts-index.htm
http://www.yle.fi/opinportti/supisuomea/
http://efe.scape.net - Finnish - English - Finnish dictionary
http://www.ilmainensanakirja.fi a lot of dictionaries.. espanja=Spanish
http://www.kmatsum.info/suomi/fin83/bumpo/fin83_g00.html
http://www.uta.fi/~km56049/finnish/
http://www.ddg.com/LIS/InfoDesignF97/paivir/finnish/sitemap. html
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/Finnish.html
http://www.transparent.com/languagepages/finnish/finnish.htm
http://www2.lingsoft.fi/cgi-bin/fintwol write a word and the site will tell you which form of which word it is
http://www.chiugate.fi/
http://www.quia.com/pages/lauantai.html
http://www.quia.com/pages/orjapiiskuri.html
and there's a very-very nice site with cartoons or smth like that... I believe it's this one http://www.uuno.tpu.fi/index.html, but it doesn't work atm... :(
(update: these cartoons are at http://www.uuno.tamk.fi/ now :))
+ a couple of new links:
http://www.uusikielemme.fi
For fans of Apocalyptica
And a few tips. Practise as much as possible and don't worry too much about mistakes - everyone makes them even in such relatively simple languages as Italian and I guess even Esperanto. If you like Finnish music, and I'm somehow sure you do, use it as a pleasant way to improve your listening skills - try to listen to more songs in Finnish. If you want I can recommend some really great Finnish bands ;)
EDIT: Just noticed in another thread that you like The Rasmus. Well frankly speaking I like heavier stuff, don't know if Ruoska, Mokoma, Teräsbetoni or Maj Karma are too heavy for you or not... And these bands are less heavy, but still great: Klamydia, Tehosekoitin, Tiktak, Yö, Apulanta. And can't resist recommending one really amazing Finnish band that sings in English: Charon. Hopefully at least some of the bands that I mentioned were new for you :)
Feel free to write something in the Finnish thread btw :)
Onnea suomen kielen opiskelullesi! ^_^
Edited by Serpent on 29 September 2007 at 12:31pm
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| Kveldulv Senior Member Italy Joined 6952 days ago 222 posts - 244 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Italian*
| Message 4 of 33 24 December 2006 at 1:23pm | IP Logged |
Amazing links, thanks Serpent!
If you like that kind of music, give a chance to one of the best albums I've ever listened to in my entire life: "Kivenkantaja" by Moonsorrow.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 5 of 33 25 December 2006 at 6:23am | IP Logged |
Guess what, I love Moonsorrow :-))) actually I listen mostly to Finnish bands and can name at least 60 that I like, so I decided not to write them all here;)
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Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6893 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map
| Message 6 of 33 25 December 2006 at 3:17pm | IP Logged |
FallingStar wrote:
Hello people!! I've started learning Finnish few days ago... |
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Wow ! Welcome to the world of a truly fascinating and different language !
With your Spanish-speaking background you will find pronunciation relatively easy, though you'll need to learn a couple of new sounds, and especially to distinguish between long and short vowels and consonants.
All the best, and lots of success with your studies !!!
Edited by Hencke on 25 December 2006 at 3:51pm
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| FallingStar Groupie Argentina Joined 6551 days ago 82 posts - 85 votes Speaks: Spanish* Studies: Finnish, English
| Message 7 of 33 26 December 2006 at 10:17am | IP Logged |
Hi guys!!! Thank you all for supporting me! =) I really appreciate it =)
How come I chose Finnish?? well,I love Finland I think it's a beautiful country *_* It's true It's million miles away from Argentina,but actually, I don't care that much. I'm planning to make a trip to Finland in some years so that's why I want to learn to speak Finnish as fluently as I can...and I also think it's a nice language to learn
SERPENT: I have nothing but thanks for you! I mean it!!! those links you posted are incredibly helpful!!
And yes, I'm learning Finnish by my own, in part because I can't afford a Finnish course,and in part because it's extremely hard to find Finnish teachers,Finnish institutes or Finnish courses over here...It's a 50/50 thing...
I Love finnish bands too!!!!!!!!! =D The rasmus is my favourite one,but I also love heavy stuff!
I like stratovarious,sonata arctica,HIM,69eyes,Negative,amorphis,lovex,Lordi,children of bodom,apulanta,apocalyptica,and I also loved Nightwish (It's not the same without Tarja,in my opinion...)
Not all of them are heavy bands, (like negative or apulanta which are not so heavy)but I like them anyway...=)
I didn't know about Moonsorrow but about Charon,which i think it's a great band!;)
Anyways...back to the main subject...do you remember?? the finnish studies?? hahaha! XD
No, I mean it,I'd like to tell you I've progressed a lot in these days i've been studying...
At the beginning I couldn't even to remember how to say "hi" It was extremely hard for me to remember how to write (correctly) a word...that's because of the ä and the ö,which were unknown letters for me...
I still have some serious problems to find the right pronunciation of ä,ö and SPECIALLY of y in some words like "Jyrki",for instance...I realise it sounds like an "u" but at the same time it doesn't sound like an ordinary "u"...It's a closer sound...
I wouldn't dare to write in the Finnish thread yet,but I'll keep on studying hard and I'll tell you my progress =) you really cheer me up to keep on studying and not quit
bye guys! näkemiin!!
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 8 of 33 26 December 2006 at 11:06am | IP Logged |
Just a piece of advice about writing a/ä...put the dots above ä and ö after writing the letter, not after writing the whole word.. Because if you first write them without the dots, you look at the word written in the wrong way for a few seconds, and that might cause you to remember it this way :/ I still write tarkea instead of tärkeä sometimes :(
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