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| zanoni Pentaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5848 days ago 262 posts - 262 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: Latin, Russian, German | Message 1 of 230 21 December 2008 at 10:38pm | IP Logged |
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Hello,
this is my first TAC. I'll start it saying that I do not have any difficulty learning languages. I find it very easy and very pleasant. Actually, I have facility for it. I do learn anything very fast. Said that, let me expose my TAC: French: PROBABLY (not for sure) I'm going to France in August. I intend to study french until there; I study it since last August during ~1 hour/day. I can read things like philosophical and literary explanations in Wikipedia and Le Monde without difficulties using a dictionary. I need to improve the vocabulary and the speaking. Grammar is all learned. I think that I'll have a good level of french when I go to France, and I'll get total fluency there. I'll keep studying it 1 hour per day using FSI, Assimil and reading a lot to improve vocabulary. I do one FSI tape per night (time varies from ~17-33 minutes), sometimes I do an Assimil lesson (I use to listen to it, write the dialogue, then look at it in the book, and so repeat it; it takes me ~10 minutes), and I read Wikipedia texts about french philosophers and writers, and I read Le Monde (normally one article/day) during the time I'm disposed to do it (it varies from ~10-30 minutes). If anyone has any tip for me, or can recommend any easy book to read in french, I will be very grateful. Latin: My purpose for studying latin is that I want to study classical roman literature. I've found a man here in my city that knows Latin (and many other languages, by the way), and he will help me in the beginning, recommending books and answering to my questions and doubts. I'll study it for ~1 hour/day during the morning (since I study french at night). I'll use basically grammar books, dictionaries and texts in latin from classical authors. Again, if anyone has any hint for me about studying latin, I'll be very grateful. I'll start it next week. Spanish: I'm in an advanced level in Spanish. But I had lost a little of my fluency when I learned Italian. They're very much similar; the case is this: I want to speak Spanish, but what I do speak is a mix of Spanish and Italian. With Italian I do not have problems. And I can read any Spanish book without problems also. So, I wish to make a big review in Spanish grammar and speaking. I'll do it by using some grammar books, Assimil, FSI, and speaking with natives on the internet (by skype, i think). I'll start this in August, while I'm in France and stop studying french (there, I'll be in contact with french many hours/day). Again, ~1 hour/day. I think that it will take from 2 to 3 months to "regain" my fluency. German: I always have been in love with the German language. But I know very few of it. My purpose on studying it is to read German authors and to speak fluently when I need to go to Germany. Since I can't dedicate more than 2 hours/day for studying languages, I'll have to wait to study German. I'll wait since I finish my Spanish review; I'll be, then, in France yet (I'll stay there until December or January). Then, after having finished my Spanish review (in about October of November), I'll instantly start to study German, about ~40 minutes/day, since I want to dedicate ~20 minutes/day to continue speaking Spanish and Italian with natives on the internet, for do not making confusion with them anymore. I'll use, first, for German, grammar books, Assimil, and maybe Pimsleur. Maybe I can use Rosetta Stone (v2, not v3) to learn basic words and concepts. I'll divide the time in 20 minutes for grammar and 20 minutes for improving vocabulary/listening/speaking/etc. After some months (3 or 4, I think), I can do FSI and seek for another methods. Italian: Read 6 books in Italian this year, for maintenance. English: I use to read many books in English, and I use to read NY Times everyday, read this forum, speak with natives, etc etc. I'm in contact with English everytime. I'll maybe go to London to get a british accent (I do want to do it). Portuguese: I live in Brazil. I speak portuguese all the time. That's it. I'll appreciate any suggestions. Edited by zanoni on 21 December 2008 at 10:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| zanoni Pentaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5848 days ago 262 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: Latin, Russian, German | Message 2 of 230 22 December 2008 at 8:42pm | IP Logged |
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Well, I decided, in the morning, from one moment to another, to start to study latin today. I started, with latin in the morning and french at night. 1 hour/day for each.
Here is my other study log: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=12890&PN=1 I decided to abandon it and start a new here in this topic for 2009. The time I mark here is the time of real study, time of real concentration on the study. I do not count intervals between preparing the books, searching the articles, etc. Then, let's start: December 22th, 2008: Latin: I read the introductions of my three grammar books, their orientations about studying latin, etc etc. Prepared myself psychologically. Then, I did some exercises of morphological analysis (in portuguese) that there was in one of the books. That took me ~52 minutes. Total time in latin: ~52 minutes French: FSI: Tape 5.2. ~29 minutes Reading: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julien_Sorel#Un_h.C3.A9ros_roma ntique ~5 minutes New words: être porté à; (le) déclassement; (le) orgueil; accomplir; Reading: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Femme_de_trente_ans#Th.C3.A8 me ~21 minutes New words: bâti (-e); épris (-e); éprouver; à peine; à (leur) égard; subir; (la) pulsion; (la) tante; (la) pudeur; ronger; jalouser; pousser; (la) rivière; s'enfuir; pirater; coupable Total time in french: ~55 minutes 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| zanoni Pentaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5848 days ago 262 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: Latin, Russian, German | Message 3 of 230 23 December 2008 at 10:04pm | IP Logged |
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December 23th, 2008
Latin: Well, I did lots of morphological analysis today. I'll do a big review on it and in syntactic analysis too before start studying latin itself. It is important because of latin's declinations. ~58 minutes Total time (latin): ~58 minutes French: FSI: Tape 5.3. ~23 minutes Reading: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Recherche_de_l%27absolu#Th.C 3.A8me ~14 minutes New words: douer; déchirements; déchirer; abriter; (l')élève; soldat; saisir; couteux (-euse); (la) commande; dévouement; échouer; (la) prévoyance; (la) sagesse; (la) fermeté; rapprocher; (la) décheance; éblouir; éclatant; moeurs; Grammar: Plus-que-parfait; Passé anterieur. ~13 minutes Total time (french): ~50 minutes 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5884 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin | Message 4 of 230 24 December 2008 at 11:36am | IP Logged |
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Zanoni
Você tem a "Gramática Latina" do professor Napoleão Mendes de Almeida? Gosto muito desse livro. What is your opinion about the FSI course? I'm using the Assimil "Le hongrois sans peine" and was thinking to use the FSI course also, but haven't still decided when to start it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| zanoni Pentaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5848 days ago 262 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: Latin, Russian, German | Message 5 of 230 24 December 2008 at 5:34pm | IP Logged |
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Olá,
tenho sim. É um dos livros de gramática que estou usando. Na verdade, não o toquei ainda pois estou fazendo uma revisão sobre análise morfológica e análise sintática, bastante importantes para o latim. Existem muitos exercícios sobre isso no livro "Programa de Latim" do Julio Comba. Ouvi dizer também que o livro de gramática da língua portuguesa do Napoleão Mendes é um dos melhores que existem. FSI is excellent. I think that you should have a grammar basis before starting its use, because you will, then, practice better your fluency and focus on that. By the other side, I didn't get accustomed with Assimil; it didn't seem that I learned too much with it. Assimil is good when you are starting to practice your listening and speaking, I think. It is all spoken slowly and simply. I used to listen to it about two or three times, depending on the text, to write it and to, only after this, take a look at the book for the words that i didn't know. After, I used to repeat. Now I rarely use it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| zanoni Pentaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5848 days ago 262 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: Latin, Russian, German | Message 6 of 230 25 December 2008 at 12:09am | IP Logged |
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December 24th, 2008
Latin: Exercises of syntactic analysis. ~60 minutes French: Did only 9 minutes of FSI's tape 5.4., but I had unforeseen circumstance here and couldn't keep my studies. Tomorrow I'll study more. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| zanoni Pentaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5848 days ago 262 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: Latin, Russian, German | Message 7 of 230 25 December 2008 at 10:02pm | IP Logged |
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December 25th, 2008
Latin: Exercises of syntactic analysis. ~53 minutes Total time in latin: ~53 minutes French: FSI: Tape 5.4. ~28 minutes Reading: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartuffe_ou_l%27Imposteur#Les_t h.C3.A8mes ~28 minutes New words: dépeindre; méchant; camper; (le) gueux (-euse); (le) soulier; (le) jaloux (-ouse); (le) goinfre; humble; doux (douse); (le) soupir; (la) aumône; pécher; paraître; faux; (la) supercherie; (la) attirance; cacher; couper; pieux; emprunter; (la) façade; régenter; Grammar: Plus-que-parfait; Passé anterieur. ~6 minutes Total time in french: ~52 minutes 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| zanoni Pentaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5848 days ago 262 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: Latin, Russian, German | Message 8 of 230 27 December 2008 at 9:58am | IP Logged |
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December 26th, 2008
Latin: Exercises of syntactic analysis. ~55 minutes French: Didn't study. I had a party to go. :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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