ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6265 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean
| Message 17 of 29 09 July 2009 at 5:46pm | IP Logged |
Well I added exactly 15 sentences today, concentrating on just one grammar point, which took a good deal less time than before. I also am now up to date with the anki 'reps' which feels good as previously I was slightly behind due to data entry taking up my time. The best thing is that going into the rest of the day I am now free to read on in the reader I started a few days back.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6265 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean
| Message 18 of 29 12 July 2009 at 6:14pm | IP Logged |
Been pretty sick after getting bitten by an insect and having the wound get infected so haven't done much, feeling a bit better today though so I got some reading done in the Yonsei reader, up to lesson 29 now.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6265 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean
| Message 19 of 29 22 July 2009 at 2:44pm | IP Logged |
It's been a few days since I posted, I've taken time out from the reading simply because I'm finding it's too hard to get through even simple texts because of a lack of vocabulary. Although I probably know 1500 words I've realised that they aren't necessarily the right words so I've got hold of a frequency list for the top 1000 words and I'm currently drilling these words using mnemosyne ( I swapped from Anki and it feels like a good move so far ). Once that is done I'll also drill through the 3000+ words found on the wordshowers site. Sometime after I get good with the 1000 word list I'll begin the reading program again.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
Yukamina Senior Member Canada Joined 6266 days ago 281 posts - 332 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean, French
| Message 20 of 29 22 July 2009 at 8:51pm | IP Logged |
What frequency list would that be?
Have you tried reading The Little Prince in Korean? I was able to read the first chapter using a dictionary, and you're vocab level is a lot higher than mine.
http://angela.rootda.org/novel/littleprince/1p.htm
And here's some children's Bible stories that may or may not be easier than what you've already been reading. Pretty sure they're easier than The Little Prince.
http://www.bibleforchildren.org/languages/korean/stories.php
Here's an free intermediate textbook that might come in handy too.
http://www.language.berkeley.edu/korean/10/main.html
And an online dictionary that has sentence examples. If you use the Firefox add-on Split Browser, you can have the dictionary on the same screen as your reading source, so you can just drag and drop words. You can also, say, have the Korean version of The Little Prince on one side, and the English version on the other-instant parallel texts.
http://kr.dic.yahoo.com/search/eng/
I hope this isn't redundant/useless ^_^;
1 person has voted this message useful
|
ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6265 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean
| Message 21 of 29 22 July 2009 at 10:24pm | IP Logged |
Hi Yukamina,
The frequency list is actually the most common list from Declan's Korean flashcards exported, then editted in open office's spreadsheet, saved as tab separated files and imported into mnemosyne. I'm finding I only know about 50% of it so I had lots of gaps in common vocab.
It wasn't so much that I can't read something with the dictionary as I find it so painful to constantly look up words that I came to the conclusion that I might as well drill words in. I'd really like to only need to look up 20% of the words I come across at most as that way I might be able to get something from context too.
The idea of reading online with a software dictionary is something I haven't tried but it does sound like it would be better than reading a book and looking up in a paper dictionary, at least for the time being.
Thanks for the links, extra material is always welcome and I will check them out over the next day or so.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
Yukamina Senior Member Canada Joined 6266 days ago 281 posts - 332 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean, French
| Message 22 of 29 22 July 2009 at 10:38pm | IP Logged |
ChrisWebb wrote:
The idea of reading online with a software dictionary is something I haven't tried but it does sound like it would be better than reading a book and looking up in a paper dictionary, at least for the time being.
|
|
|
Looking stuff up online is a lot less painful than using a paper dictionary. There's a better chance of finding the word you're looking for too.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6265 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean
| Message 23 of 29 24 July 2009 at 12:08pm | IP Logged |
Well i carried on drilling the 1000 word list in Mnemosyne and today I breached the point where more than half the list is ranked at grade 4 or 5 ( I'm tough on myself with rating answers so these are really well remembered ). I also have 23% of the deck sitting in grade 0 though and i have the day free so plan on getting these all up to at least grade 2 by bedtime. The flashcards are really intense so once I get these items down I'm not going to do the wordshowers list, instead I'm going to do lists of words in preparation for whatever I plan on reading next and then add unknown items I actually meet through reading.
I have to say Mnemosyne is working fantastically well for me and Anki never did, I wish I'd made the swap over earlier.
One thing I'm finding with heavy flashcard usage is that I seem to get physical symptoms if I cover a really large number of cards. That is to say I've covered maybe 750 cards in 2 days and had to stop each day because I started wanting to vomit ( a physical sensation not simply a mentalk reaction ). I really wasn't expecting worse than a headache and to be a little fed up with the cards.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6265 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean
| Message 24 of 29 25 July 2009 at 11:44am | IP Logged |
Well doing the flash cards intensively yesterday was pretty hard but it seems to have paid off rather nicely as I'm now over 60% in grade 4 or 5 with a significant shift into grade 5 from grade 4. I also got around 200 cards wrong in review today but even this was quite encouraging as a good portion of these are cards that I wasn't massively off with or that I confused with each other which I guess means that recognition is coming. Only a couple of days ago the bulk of these words were total strangers.
I'm actually very encouraged and think I will work through the rest of the sets in the Declan's library ( about 3500 words I think ) but I wont be doing it at the rate that I am tackling this first list at, I think 100 words a week can probably be done pretty painlessly, particularly if I use the Declan's software to build familiarity before importing into mnemosyne.
I still plan to resume reading once this first list is firmly under my belt, hopefully within a week.
1 person has voted this message useful
|