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| Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5727 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 1 of 9 06 July 2009 at 7:13pm | IP Logged |
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UPDATE (8/2/09): This will now be my log for both Italian and Hebrew.
-------------------- Why am I learning Italian? Well, for an American teenage girl, there could be one of two reasons. And I have both those reasons: boyfriends and competition. There's this girl at my school who has parents who are straight from Italy, and they speak the Italian language. Well, everyone seemed to lose interest in the fact that I spoke a weird language (Portuguese) and told me that I should learn Italian because Italian is such a "cool and pretty language." "That's the language the new girl speaks. It's pretty." So I'm assuming Portuguese lost it's appeal. So, here I am, putting Italian under my belt to show people how not-so unique it is. I wasn't much interested in the language at first. My interest in Italian sparked up again a few weeks ago when my boyfriend and I were talking about languages and the beauty of them. (He knows that I like learning languages.) He said that if I spoke Italian, that'd probably be one of the coolest and hottest things ever. (Thank God he didn't know the Italian chick at my school otherwise I would have slapped him. :P) So here I am. My materials/resources I'm using are: Courses: Pimsleur Italian I - for speaking and listening Teach yourself Beginner's Italian Livemocha.com - everyone should use it :P Italicon Italian language exercises Italian Now! - I used this for Portuguese. It helped a lot! Grammar books: Modern Italian Grammar --- So here it is, my first day and log of Italian: July 6, 2009. Next stop: basic fluency in about.. I don't know. My goal is 6 months. But since I'm studying it on and off then realistically it's going to be about 1 or 2 years. Maybe more. ----- Now, onto Hebrew. (August 02, 2009.) I'm a Messianic Jew and I'd like to be able to learn Hebrew because it is one of the languages of this synagogue in town that I've been looking to become a part of. Also, I'm of an Israeli background and I'd like to learn the language of my great great grandparents and their people. So here it is; day one of Hebrew. I've already completed lessons 1-4 of Pimsleur's Hebrew I. I went to this website and printed out a sheet that has the Alephbet in block, script, and book style. I'm practicing writing the script style. Edited by Kyrie on 03 August 2009 at 12:58am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5727 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 2 of 9 07 July 2009 at 1:11am | IP Logged |
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Day 1 - Completed Pimsleur Italian - Unit 01. Words I learned:
Scusi excuse me inglese English (lei) capisce (you) understand signore sir signorina ma'am (io) capisco {I} understand (non) capisce you (don't) understand Sì yes italiano Italian un po' A little Lei è americano You are American Sentences: Excuse me, ma'am. Do you understand English? Scusi, signorina. Lei capisce l'inglese? No sir. I understand a little Italian. No, signore. Io caspisco un po' l'italiano. Are you American? Lei è Americano? Edited by Kyrie on 07 July 2009 at 1:11am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6077 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 9 07 July 2009 at 1:24am | IP Logged |
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Hoho, what people do for love. ^^
With Spanish and Portoguese under your belt, I reckon the experience will be much smoother for you than for someone going from scratch though. Italian will problably make learning French easy as pie later on too. ;) Good luck! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5727 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 4 of 9 07 July 2009 at 2:03am | IP Logged |
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Thank you! C: It's nice to hear that Italian will ease the difficulty of French.
------- Completed Unit 01 Lesson 01 of Livemocha's Italian I Course. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5727 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 5 of 9 07 July 2009 at 8:40pm | IP Logged |
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July 7th - I think I found another potentially good tutorial. It's IE language's Italian. I'll try that out and see if I can't use it to supplement my Audio lessons. Also, for vocab, I'll use Babbel.
---- Here's what I learned today from Unit 02 and 03 of Pimsleur's Italian I: Buon giorno Good day signora Mrs. Lei come sta? How are you? Molto bene, grazie. Very good, thanks. Io sto bene. I am good. Arrivederci! Good bye! ma but e and Io sono... I am... Per favore. Please. Prego! You're welcome! Parla... You speak... 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6270 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 6 of 9 19 July 2009 at 9:24pm | IP Logged |
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How do you know it's standard Italian? It may be some dialect like Neapolitan or Sicilian. I saw that film Gomorrah which was largely in Neapolitan, and it seemed pretty far removed from standard Italian.
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| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5907 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 7 of 9 19 July 2009 at 11:29pm | IP Logged |
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Any course will be in standard Italian unless it explicitly tells you otherwise, so I wouldn't worry about it... Once you have a decent grasp of that, you will be able to tell there's something 'non-standard' going on if you hear something else spoken. There are many closely related but slightly different and possibly separate languages in Italy (who knew?), that's a different thing to the differences you'll hear in pronunciation of standard Italian, though I guess there's bound to be differences there as well.
From what I've read, people write in standard Italian and will just switch to standard Italian in the blink of an eye to speak to you but might speak a dialect amongst themselves, so I think we can go a long way without really needing to worry about dialects. This is based partly on a conversation with a language exchange buddy of mine who's learning Norwegian, and who was shocked that people can't just switch to speaking standard Norwegian and that any learner will hear dialects spoken to them no matter what (we can simplify our dialect to make it clearer and easier to understand, but not speak standard Norwegian just like that). He explained to me that it isn't like that in Italy, everyone is fluent in standard Italian or has a decent enough grasp of it that you'll get on fine (except in some rural parts of southern Italy). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5727 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 8 of 9 30 July 2009 at 9:47pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks for letting me know that. The idea of a whole bunch of dialects kind of made me nervous there.
-------------- Getting back to Italian. Got rid of LanguageNow! because it takes up too much room on my computer. Getting through lesson one of TY Italian. Going to do Pimsleur lesson three later on. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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