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kidshomestunner
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 Message 9 of 20
20 May 2010 at 2:32pm | IP Logged 
http://www.amazon.com/Korean-Language-Cambridge-Surveys/dp/0 521369436

http://copac.ac.uk/search?rn=25&any=middle+korean

is what I have found...

I think to really study it you would have to be pretty good at kanji.
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Kounotori
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 Message 10 of 20
20 May 2010 at 4:39pm | IP Logged 
luhmann wrote:
I seems it should be simple to come up with a fake 주민등록번호, the number is described here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_registration_number

Make up your number, then you only need to figure out what is the last digit, just try 0-9 until you get in.


Yes, obviously he should commit identity theft. What a fabulous idea.
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Captain Haddock
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 Message 11 of 20
21 May 2010 at 3:24am | IP Logged 
I think identity theft goes a bit beyond making up a ID number so you can post on a forum. Hyperbole, anyone?
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Kounotori
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 Message 12 of 20
21 May 2010 at 4:58pm | IP Logged 
Captain Haddock wrote:
I think identity theft goes a bit beyond making up a ID number so you can post on a forum. Hyperbole, anyone?


Well...

GREGORG4000 wrote:
Nah, they check it against databases, from what I've heard. There are several Koreans in my area who can't use Korean websites because of this type of thing >.<


So yes, as you really need a valid resident registration number, it counts as identity theft (or at least fraud), which, by the way, is punishable under South Korean law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_registration_number wrote:
For example, it was found that former South Korean president Roh Moo-Hyun's resident registration number was used to gain access to hundreds of pornographic websites, as well as to register accounts on a number of entertainment and gaming web sites[1]. Complaints about identity theft led the South Korean government to implement stiff penalties for using someone else's resident registration number. Offenders are eligible to serve 3 years in jail or to be imposed a 10,000,000 ₩ fine[2].

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Captain Haddock
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 Message 13 of 20
22 May 2010 at 5:53am | IP Logged 
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So yes, as you really need a valid resident registration number, it counts as identity theft (or at least fraud),
which, by the way, is punishable under South Korean law:


Except we're talking about doing it because we're not in South Korea, we're somewhere else where it's not a
crime. And besides, we're talking about making up IDs, not impersonating someone else's ID.
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Kounotori
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 Message 14 of 20
22 May 2010 at 1:00pm | IP Logged 
Captain Haddock wrote:
Quote:
So yes, as you really need a valid resident registration number, it counts as identity theft (or at least fraud),
which, by the way, is punishable under South Korean law:


Except we're talking about doing it because we're not in South Korea, we're somewhere else where it's not a
crime. And besides, we're talking about making up IDs, not impersonating someone else's ID.


Making up valid IDs, you mean, ones that belong to actual people. And it is a crime, whether there was an intent to impersonate or not: I don't think all those people in the Wikipedia example case were trying to impersonate the South Korean President when they accessed all those different websites using his ID.

Of course this is a blurry issue, though, since we're talking about it happening on the internet, something that really has no national borders. However, even if it isn't a crime in your country (or mine), it is in South Korea, and becomes especially relevant to South Korean law since the crime is still taking place on a server located in South Korea, even if the perpetrator is in another country. It also involves using another person's personal information, which is not exactly lawful in Western countries either.
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 Message 15 of 20
12 July 2010 at 11:27pm | IP Logged 
Captain Haddock wrote:

Except we're talking about doing it because we're not in South Korea, we're somewhere else where it's not a
crime. And besides, we're talking about making up IDs, not impersonating someone else's ID.


uh o, i'd never like my ID to be used by someone who doesn't live in korea as well as by korean. (Edit : Though u don't have any idea to impersonate or bomb-out me) if u have that kind of thing in mind, that using a korean's ID nummber not a crime so far as u'r not in korea, IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM. As soon as u entered a korean website, it's same as u'r on the korean territory. that means the crime overseas should also be regarded as one commited in korea's internal space. think about it twice. just put urself in other's shoes. it could be also regarded as an international crime.

Edited by haenaaneah on 12 July 2010 at 11:32pm
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CaucusWolf
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 Message 16 of 20
13 July 2010 at 1:14am | IP Logged 
haenaaneah wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:

Except we're talking about doing it because we're not in South Korea, we're somewhere else where it's not a
crime. And besides, we're talking about making up IDs, not impersonating someone else's ID.


uh o, i'd never like my ID to be used by someone who doesn't live in korea as well as by korean. (Edit : Though u don't have any idea to impersonate or bomb-out me) if u have that kind of thing in mind, that using a korean's ID nummber not a crime so far as u'r not in korea, IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM. As soon as u entered a korean website, it's same as u'r on the korean territory. that means the crime overseas should also be regarded as one commited in korea's internal space. think about it twice. just put urself in other's shoes. it could be also regarded as an international crime.


Exactly it'd be like if someone stole a social security number it wouldn't matter what country they stole it or what intention they had to use it the person who stole it should go to jail.

Edited by CaucusWolf on 13 July 2010 at 1:16am


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