Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6036 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 1 of 14 15 July 2010 at 4:47pm | IP Logged |
How do you guys pronounce it, is like "tree" or like "free"? ;(. th- in the beginning of words is really hard to pronounce, and I absolutely hate it. People complain about -ble in French and the French -r-, but that th- thing is 10x harder.
Edited by Sennin on 15 July 2010 at 6:17pm
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Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5569 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian
| Message 2 of 14 15 July 2010 at 4:52pm | IP Logged |
I say /θɹiː/. I have no difficulty at all with the sound. The only variation I ever hear among native English speakers here in North America is that sometimes people will change the "r" into a Spanish- or Russian-style alveolar flap when it comes after "th": /θɾiː/
Edited by Levi on 15 July 2010 at 4:55pm
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Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6036 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 3 of 14 15 July 2010 at 5:09pm | IP Logged |
Hmm... perhaps it is a bit like the ch- in chair? ^_^
The funny thing is I have no problems with "thirty", I guess it is the combination of θ + ɹ that I find hard.
Edit:
just found an online library with people saying "three", how cool is that? :) Link: http://fr.forvo.com/word/three/
The Scottish guy pronounces it almost exactly like f-, with a hard r - and a short i at the end; I can imitate that quite easily; With the southern British English accent there is some sort of hissing sound in the beginning - is it a good example to follow? I'm not sure how I can reproduce that.
The US accents are more clear, maybe it's just that recording. So which one should I imitate? That's always a problem with English...
Edited by Sennin on 15 July 2010 at 5:54pm
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johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5329 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 4 of 14 15 July 2010 at 7:27pm | IP Logged |
I'd say the US accent (because I'm American lol). But you could say tree or free (I'd recommend tree) and you'd be understood with context. I've never thought of how hard the "th" sound could be for learners...
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GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5525 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French
| Message 5 of 14 15 July 2010 at 7:38pm | IP Logged |
Now that I think about it, it is a devilish combination of consonants. It really is pronouncing both of those in a row, sorry...
Edited by GREGORG4000 on 15 July 2010 at 7:39pm
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Tyr Senior Member Sweden Joined 5784 days ago 316 posts - 384 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish
| Message 6 of 14 15 July 2010 at 9:10pm | IP Logged |
Like free but with emphasis on the ee.
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egill Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5698 days ago 418 posts - 791 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 7 of 14 15 July 2010 at 11:36pm | IP Logged |
I say both [θɹiː] and [θɾiː], tending towards the latter in fast speech. I've heard both [t͡ʃɹiː] or [fɹiː] and say those for fun
sometimes.
Yeah, English can have some decently long consonant clusters. Carefully articulated, sixths or even moreso
strengths comes to mind. That second one has three consonants followed by a vowel, followed by four more. I say
it something like [st͡ʃrɛŋkθs].
Edited by egill on 15 July 2010 at 11:36pm
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ilanbg Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6412 days ago 166 posts - 189 votes Speaks: French, English* Studies: Spanish, Arabic (classical), Persian
| Message 8 of 14 15 July 2010 at 11:39pm | IP Logged |
Maybe I'm overlooking something simple, but to me "tree" and "free" both rhyme (and also rhyme with "three"). Is
that just a result of my American accent? I can't picture how any of those three words would sound different from
each other.
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