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| anamsc Triglot Senior Member Andorra Joined 6205 days ago 296 posts - 382 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Catalan Studies: Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Written), French | Message 9 of 14 16 July 2010 at 1:58am | IP Logged | ||
No, they definitely rhyme. I think the OP is referring to the initial consonant cluster ("thr") rather than the vowel sound. :) Oh, by the way, I say [θɾi], I have a hard time saying [θɹi] (so I don't say it) but I hear it often, and I also hear (but don't say) [fɹi]. I don't think I've ever heard [tʃɹi], though. If it helps, you can pronounce a word-initial "th" as a dental stop, like [t̪ɾi]--I think I do that too. Edited by anamsc on 16 July 2010 at 2:02am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5329 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 10 of 14 16 July 2010 at 4:45am | IP Logged | ||
Also, I never fully answered the OP's question: I say [θɾi] or [θɹi] Edited by johntm93 on 16 July 2010 at 4:52am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kary Groupie Canada Joined 6151 days ago 85 posts - 113 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Spanish, German | Message 11 of 14 16 July 2010 at 1:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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I say /θɹiː/. I know people who say /tɹiː/ but they all have noticeable non-standard (though charming) accents.
Of course, I have no problem with /θ/, /ɹ/ or /θɹ/ sounds, but /r/, /ɾ/, /ʁ/, and /ʀ/ are beyond challenging for me. No "rrroll up the rim to win" for me. A little Canadiana reference there. ;-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6144 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 12 of 14 17 July 2010 at 3:05am | IP Logged | ||
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That's odd. I have never heard "three" pronounced as /θɾiː/ by a native speaker except for maybe in Scottish or Irish accents. I had no idea it was so common. I always say /θɹiː/. I have heard the word pronounced like "tree" and "free" before, but those were only by non-native English speakers with a strong accent (Portuguese and French respectively).
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| johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5329 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 13 of 14 17 July 2010 at 5:05am | IP Logged | ||
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| RMM Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5229 days ago 91 posts - 215 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Swedish, Japanese | Message 14 of 14 03 August 2010 at 11:00am | IP Logged | ||
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Like one of the previous posters suggested, if you can't figure out how to pronounce the "thr" combination properly then it would be best to say "tree." It has been my experience that non-native English speakers rarely pronounce the English "th" sounds properly anyway. They usually replace these sounds with a "d" or a "t" sound, so native English speakers will be used to hearing "tree" for "three." Although some dialects of English may actually say "free," for most English speakers that would be an odd pronunciation and what you are trying to say may have to be figured out from context.
I would try working at using an actual "th" sound if you can. It will make you sound more accurate and skilled in the language. Just spread your teeth apart slightly, put the very tip of your tongue over the top of your lower teeth and leave only a very, very small amount of space between your upper teeth and tongue, round your lips just a little bit, and then just blow very hard and you should more or less make a proper "th" sound. When making the following "r" sound, make sure to quickly draw the tip of your tongue back from between your teeth into your mouth lower than the bottom of your bottom layer of teeth (unless of course you want to trill your "r" like some upper-crust Brits do--then your tongue would go up). If you can get your teeth and tongue in the right position you should be able to figure out how to do it properly with practice. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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